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    Default What would you do?

    I play a full 6 max table and everyone folds to me. I sit on the SB with 66. The table is a NL 0.25/0.5. What would you do. I have played about 10 hands at the table and have only showed down good hands on my raises. The guy on the BB is hard to understand, but I get the feeling that he is pretty weak player, or at least loose.

    Both our stacks are about 30 BBs.
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    Raise it up to $1.
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    At .25 /.50 I'd raise it up to 2$ and c-bet most flops.

    (If he re-raises you a significant amount pre-flop I fold out of position esp. with only 30BB's stacks against an unknown.)
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    I've been thinking about the same thing lately. Small pocket pairs are "big pot" hands. I don't want them to fold but I want the pot be as big as possible when I hit my set. Therefore I generally like to raise it to $1 as a sweetener when the blinds are tight, $1.5 when I'm not sure and to $2 when they're loose.

    EDIT: oops. I was talking about a situation where you are the button and are folded to. In this case I'd raise it to $1.5 to get odds for the set.
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    30BB Doesn't give you odds for a set. The dilemma here is your torn between raising it up significantly because you will play the rest of the hand out of position or getting implied odds for your set. If you raise it to $2 that's 1.5BB:30bb or exactly 1:15. But don't expect him to pay off easily playing from the big blind, most weak players will complete this with bad cards, most good players will raise you up with any decent holding. Personally, I raise it to $3, and see if he is serious or take the blind.
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    i call here
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer_jyms
    30BB Doesn't give you odds for a set. The dilemma here is your torn between raising it up significantly because you will play the rest of the hand out of position or getting implied odds for your set. If you raise it to $2 that's 1.5BB:30bb or exactly 1:15. But don't expect him to pay off easily playing from the big blind, most weak players will complete this with bad cards, most good players will raise you up with any decent holding. Personally, I raise it to $3, and see if he is serious or take the blind.
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    Generally I think 66 (and lower trips) are risky when calculating implied odds. With big stacks, often trips will be the border for where most people allow themselves to go all in, if the board don't look too scary of course. The few times you hit your low trips and the oppontent call, they usually have something better. Sure, 2 pairs might call some times, but would you go all in with that?

    Second problem taken from the hand:
    I raised to $3 and he called. (as you said)
    The table has to overcards - 7 and 9.
    I'm first to act.
    1) Does he have a higher pair and slow play me? It doesn't follow the profile I have of him.
    2) Did he hit any of the 6 outs (assuming he has 2 different valued cards)?
    Of his way of playing, he could have anything since he is so loose. He doesn't pay any respect to my raises.
    Probe bet? It will show weakness to him and he will push.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabe
    i call here
    Given stacks, if we raise and are reraised we no longer have implied odds to sethunt. If we call and are raised we can still call under the 10x rule. Which would you prefer: His blind or his stack?
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    If he is loose and almost never folding to a raise, then you lose a lot of incentive for raising, because you are going to have to play a bigger pot with reduced implied odds OOP.

    If you know he's a bad player, you can often get paid when you hit a set, so limping has a lot of value, even if you get raised every time by the BB.

    You are obviously not folding.

    Call seems good to me.
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