Nut flush vs. paired river card

[bode]

villain is 51/8/2.5 over 35 hands. is this an easy call, or do i put him AI?

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $.25 BB (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

UTG ($25)
Button ($14.23)
SB ($30.90)
Hero ($54.42)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A, 2.
2 folds, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($0.50) Q, 6, 4 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.5, SB calls $0.50.

Turn: ($1.50) 8 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1, SB calls $1.

River: ($3.50) 6 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $4.25, SB raises to $8.5, Hero ???

[zenbitz]

Oh this is a boat, like never. Well, I take this back, it could be a terribly slow played set, but t's probably a worse flush. Call, obv. I might even raise.

[bode]

im obviously calling this every time, i just dont know if theres value in a raise

[bigspenda73]

Call don't raise.

[silu73]

I tend to just call there, have a look at the HH what he had and make a note. Looks like he has a lower flush here a lot. A good read here would be if he did tend to open raise his PP's?

[IowaSkinsFan]

idk i wouldnt mind seeing u push here. It's pretty hard to tell what's the best move.
Since opp is so bad I may push.

[gabe]

i would shove !! nut flush and doesnt look like any two pair or set would play flop and turn this way

[bode]

results:

i shoved over and he flipped Q6.

[nutsinho]

yeah villain sucks
i agree this is a very close decision and i dont fault you at all for pushing

[bigspenda73]

yeah villain sucks
i agree this is a very close decision and i dont fault you at all for pushing

I do! I told you not to shove like 3 posts earlier, what, were you not playing real time?

At this level they aren't shoving a non boat agaisnt a flush board, they just aren't

[gabe]

At this level they aren't shoving a non boat agaisnt a flush board, they just aren't

yea, hopefully they have a flush

easy push

[bigspenda73]

At this level they aren't shoving a non boat agaisnt a flush board, they just aren't

yea, hopefully they have a flush

easy push

Wait, what?

Oh, also, anyone else raising with Axs in the BB when the SB just completes. I hate limpers on my BB so I probably make it 3xbb to go.

[zenbitz]

[, also, anyone else raising with Axs in the BB when the SB just completes. I hate limpers on my BB so I probably make it 3xbb to go.

Yeah, I am probably raising KX/AX/pairs/ and other cards I like.

[Galapogos]

I raise a very wide range in blind vs blind. Definately Axs. I'm often open raising it UTG.

[bode]

At this level they aren't shoving a non boat agaisnt a flush board, they just aren't

they are shoving lower flushes enough to make this a profitable play IMO.

[bode]

Oh, also, anyone else raising with Axs in the BB when the SB just completes. I hate limpers on my BB so I probably make it 3xbb to go.

defending your blinds too much is one of the biggest leaks for some players. That being said, im raising w/ Axs in a bvb everytime.

[bigspenda73]

At this level they aren't shoving a non boat agaisnt a flush board, they just aren't

they are shoving lower flushes enough to make this a profitable play IMO.

He minraises and doesn't shove. I think he has a really strong hand looking for a bit of value. Of course, had he knew what you had he would have done the shoving for you.

[mcatdog]

He minraises and doesn't shove. I think he has a really strong hand looking for a bit of value. Of course, had he knew what you had he would have done the shoving for you.

Obviously he has a strong hand but he's probably not smart enough to differentiate between a flush and a full house in this situation. In either case he'd say "I have a monster, I'll min-raise!" Since it's easier for him to have a flush than a full house here, not shoving is bad IMO.

[bode]

He minraises and doesn't shove. I think he has a really strong hand looking for a bit of value. Of course, had he knew what you had he would have done the shoving for you.

Obviously he has a strong hand but he's probably not smart enough to differentiate between a flush and a full house in this situation. In either case he'd say "I have a monster, I'll min-raise!" Since it's easier for him to have a flush than a full house here, not shoving is bad IMO.

The way it was played looked like he was on a FD or at best had a bare Q. this was one hand where i actually used some time thinking about how the hand played out. Usually i play like a robot because there arent many hard decisions a the low stakes.

[Genitruc]

shovetastic