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  1. #1

    Default Dumb or Standard?

    Villian is unknow but loose after only 10 hands.

    POKERSTARS GAME #9137380859: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($1/$2) - 2007/03/28 - 19:45:49 (ET)
    Table 'Doris V' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
    Seat 1: 79diabelo ($97 in chips)
    Seat 2: redgrape ($195.15 in chips)
    Seat 3: Ldonnie ($940.75 in chips)
    Seat 4: cappiej_07 ($149.40 in chips)
    Seat 6: goldmatrix ($158.75 in chips)
    redgrape: posts small blind $1
    Ldonnie: posts big blind $2
    Zadan: sits out
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to redgrape [Th Ts]
    cappiej_07: calls $2
    goldmatrix: calls $2
    79diabelo: calls $2
    redgrape: raises $14 to $16
    Ldonnie: folds
    cappiej_07: folds
    goldmatrix: calls $14
    79diabelo: folds
    *** FLOP *** [9c 6d 2d]
    redgrape: bets $26
    goldmatrix: calls $26
    *** TURN *** [9c 6d 2d] [6c]
    redgrape: checks
    goldmatrix: bets $40
    redgrape: calls $40
    *** RIVER *** [9c 6d 2d 6c] [4s]
    redgrape: checks
    goldmatrix: bets $76.75 and is all-in
    redgrape: calls $76.75
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    i wouldnt have the balls to make this play after 10 hands
    I got more flava than fruitstripe gum
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    Put this in Gabe's thread. I'm really interested in what people do in these spots against these kinds of player. I hate these.


    Note: I was just kidding, do not actually put this in Gabe's thread, just expressing my interest in people's advice here is all! Think of this as a wordy "bump"


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    pf, isnt raise to 12 more std? and Im not sure I like turn check call, not sure what to do though.
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    I raise a lot more from the SB when there are limpers since i'm guaranteed OOP, no matter what the hand. Woulda raised the same amount with AA.
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    why did you check turn, perfect card to bet
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    Yea betting the turn makes this much easier. There are also a lot of cards you don't want to see on the river assuming you are ahead on the turn.

    I think you have to call turn and river here though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabe
    why did you check turn, perfect card to bet
    wtf is he beating?
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    A9, 87, lower PPs, diamond draw.
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  10. #10
    Should i call a push if i bet the turn?
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    Tough spot. I think some percentage of time you see two diamonds here. I'm just not sure how big that percentage is, or if its more often than you find a 6.

    The thing that sucks is that his turn bet is a huuuge value bet, and definitely not intended to scare you away.

    I think you need to lead this turn. And if you're willing to call his turn bet and a river push, then maybe you should just check push this turn? You might get a 9 to call here being committed, A9d's maybe, or another diamond draw.
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  12. #12
    i'd assume he's donkish with the limp-call, ur "seems loose" read, and him with < full buyin...and with ~psb left, it's worth just betting (call a push, and whatever if he shows 76 or somethin..), or c/r all in on the turn, like griffery said.

    also, i like the idea of raising less oop, since you will likely isolate the same amount but can control the pot size a little better. but it looks like in this hand that wouldn't matter much since the only caller was 75bb.
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    betting the turn also gives us an excuse to fold here if villain gets aggro.


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