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  1. #1

    Default Light value on river..

    Villain is 50/10/.03.

    Is the river value bet standard? ..bet/fold? Why or why not? Thx

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    SB ($99.25)
    BB ($69.25)
    UTG ($233.75)
    Hero ($196)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with 7, 8.
    UTG calls $2, Hero calls $2, 1 fold, BB checks.

    Flop: ($7) 7, 4, 5 (3 players)
    BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $6, BB folds, UTG calls $6.

    Turn: ($19) 6 (2 players)
    UTG checks, Hero bets $12, UTG calls $12.

    River: ($31) 7 (2 players)
    UTG checks, Hero bets $25???
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  2. #2
    wtf is this hand?

    I'd pot the river ; think of all the times you raise with AK preflop, the donkey calls, then calls down your 3 barells on a board like this a J6!

    If he raises river it's a pretty close fold I think based on his seriously low AF.
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by Genitruc
    wtf is this hand?
    lol

    Guess this is a better question:

    bz123: raises $188.75 to $213.75 and is all-in
    alexos888: folds

    EZ fold.
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  4. #4
    haha nh

    would be sick if he showed AA and was doing it for donk-value.
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
  5. #5
    This ain't PaaartyPooka yo.:P
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  6. #6
    raise pf
    I got more flava than fruitstripe gum
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    ive never bet a river with trips and thought to myself 'this is a light value bet'
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    hehe, I guess thats why I changed my question after.
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  9. #9
    You probably have the best hand even if he calls you, so I would bet. If he raises it's an easy fold.
  10. #10
    gabe, he isn't betting trips, he's betting a straight here.

    Raise pre-flop if your going to play this hand. gives you a chance to isolate the loose-passive guy.

    as played, the river is kind of tricky, and depends on the villan. This is a paired board with 4 to a straight and 3 to a flush, what could your opponent have that he calls with that you beat here? you might be splitting with another 8, and I don't think a flush is out of the question here. I also don't think that AA-99 are that likely, which are the only worse that might pay you off here. I say check behind on the river, and hope your straight is good.
  11. #11
    one more thing, I ran this through pokerstove just to see how you fare against his range (based on your poker tracker stats, I gave him a range of 50.2%)

    Board: 7h 4h 5h 6h 7s
    Dead:

    equity win tie pots won pots tied
    Hand 0: 55.451% 52.26% 03.20% 278 17.00 { 8c7c }
    Hand 1: 44.549% 41.35% 03.20% 220 17.00 { 22+, A2s+, K2s+, Q2s+, J4s+, T6s+, 96s+, 86s+, 76s, 65s, A2o+, K5o+, Q7o+, J7o+, T8o+, 98o }

    so your barely ahead here, and I don't think you are gaining any value from this river bet.
  12. #12
    The Bankroll, I found your PokerStove numbers impossible to believe, so I ran through PokerStove myself and found that the Hero is ahead 85/15, not 55/45. Are you sure you entered a range of top 50%?

    Easy bet.
  13. #13
    Easy bet-fold. I don't even think it is close. He calls with all kinds of 7s.
  14. #14
    yea this seems like a super-std bet/fold to me
    I got more flava than fruitstripe gum
  15. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by sauce123
    yea this seems like a super-std bet/fold to me
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