Top 2 facing heat

[Genitruc]

From memory (HH database is corrupted or some bs) :

UTG + 1 has 400ish, I cover (nl200), 6 handed game. No stats.

Preflop : UTG + 1 raises to 7, I call with , btn calls as wel

Flop : ( pot is 25ish)

UTG+1 bets ½ pot (12ish), I raised to 38, btn folds.
UTG + 1 flat calls

Turn : (115ish)

UTG+1 checks, I check

River :

UTG+1 pots

I call, fold or raise? (we both have about 200 behind)

Seems like this is an easy call but, once again, discussing with ppl I respect made me unsure.

All street comments appreciated.

[JL]

Well I think raising is out of the question because you cannot expect to get called by something worse than your hand.

You can't possibly fold on this friendly of a board can you?

The way this hand played out, it seems he missed his check raise on the turn. But, you still have to call the river.

[IowaSkinsFan]

don't raise but easy call.

[Numbr2intheWorld]

Yeah this is a calllllllllllll, especially with no stats. He could have any Ax two pair here.

[c-luvin]

why are you checking behind turn?

[griffey24]

Pleeeeeeeease bet that turn!

Oh, and no re-raise PF even?

[Galapogos]

why are you checking behind turn?

I like the check behind on the turn.

[Alexos]

Isn't the check behind on turn bad? I always thought we should get more value from Ace-lower kicker and usually bet the turn. Especially if your hand is underreped sorta. I understand there are no draws, but its not likely that he'll bluff a river after you raised the flop, so he probably has an ace or a set already, with a much higher probability of an ace.

Unless you check turn b/c you're pretty sure he has a set?

Anywho I call here, but I see a set often.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Actually thanks C-l i didnt notice that, why the hell are you checking behind the turn?

[JL]

Unless you check turn b/c you're pretty sure he has a set?

I highly doubt that he can be pretty sure he has a set by the turn.
Villain bet/called the flop, that does not tell us much.

Did you check behind turn to mix things up/induce a bluff or what?
It's not like you have one pair and are trying to control the pot size...

[Genitruc]

Unless you check turn b/c you're pretty sure he has a set?

I highly doubt that he can be pretty sure he has a set by the turn.
Villain bet/called the flop, that does not tell us much.

Did you check behind turn to mix things up/induce a bluff or what?
It's not like you have one pair and are trying to control the pot size...

I'm not sure what I think about my turn check.

I flat-called preflop since I typically play weird preflop when deepstacked (looking for this exact spot on this exact flop).

I've been experimenting with heavy multi-tabling more nitty poker (part of a bonus-whoring mentality, also trying to get myself used to tons of hands be4 challenge).

I guess that I felt like checking the turn would allow me to get paid off on a pot-sized river bet when checked to.

If I bet the turn and get called I doubt a non-retarded villain would stack off on the river without a hand that splits/crushes me.

But yeah... I don't really know what I think about my turn check.

If I bet the turn and get raised... is it an insta-fold?

[griffey24]

If I bet the turn and get raised... is it an insta-fold?

I think a lot of this depends on villain's stats. You got stats on villain?

If he's aggro, I don't mind the check behind, because he might lead into us on the river. but if I checked behind, I'd be doing so with the intention of raising a river lead.

Also, what is his PF raising range? A7, A2/A3 suited would equally stack off here. I'm not sure why you're so scared of a set of 7's/2's.

[Genitruc]

part of the problem here was no stats on villain

[n3wbs]

Bet the turn and call an all-in.

As played just call the river.

[Numbr2intheWorld]

Genitruc, you aren't folding here on the river. You just aren't. You only have to be good 1/3 of the time and your hand is very strong. This is especially true without reads or stats.

[phantom_lord]

river is an easy call. bet the turn i think.

[Genitruc]

No i m def not folding

The initial discussion I had was to raise or call based on my turn check

After more talking about it the "he missed his turn CR" argument seemed pretty presuasive so I wondered if some nitty ppl would ever advocate folding