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  1. #1

    Default 200NL: A couple hands, reasonably deep

    Hand 1:

    -villain is running at 35/29/4, but over only 70ish hands
    -I have been raising reasonably often, but not out of line, about 25/20

    Cryptologic
    No Limit Holdem Ring game
    Blinds: $1/$2
    6 players
    Converter

    Stack sizes:
    UTG: $164
    UTG+1: $936.50
    Hero: $409
    Button: $75.50
    SB: $666
    BB: $335.50

    Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with
    2 folds, Hero raises to $8, 2 folds, BB calls.

    Flop: ($17, 2 players)
    BB bets $15, Hero raises to $42, BB raises to $95, Hero calls.

    Turn: ($207, 2 players)
    BB bets $123, Hero ??

    Hand 2:

    -villain is a huge fish, 70/33/1 over about 140 hands
    -I got my stack by pushing top two pair and he called with an 8 high flush draw
    -how is each street?

    Cryptologic
    No Limit Holdem Ring game
    Blinds: $1/$2
    5 players
    Converter

    Stack sizes:
    UTG: $441.75
    CO: $202
    Button: $375.25
    Hero: $401.50
    BB: $458.50

    Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is SB with
    2 folds, Button calls, Hero raises to $10, BB calls, Button calls.

    Flop: ($30, 3 players)
    Hero bets $27, BB folds, Button calls.

    Turn: ($84, 2 players)
    Hero bets $57, Button calls.

    River: ($198, 2 players)
    Hero bets $95, Button raises to $190, Hero ugh??
    Quote Originally Posted by Jay-Z
    I'm a couple hands down and I'm tryin' to get back
    I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks
  2. #2
    Hand 1 is an easy shove imo (gg if he has the case 9 or 33 but an aggressive player can just be recklessly pricing himself in here with a big overs + FD type hand)

    Hand 2 is gross. dunno what I'd do or what to tell you
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
  3. #3
    Thanks for the reply genitruc. anyone else?

    Does everyone raise with trip 9's there, or is flat calling to keep worse hands in a better play?
    Quote Originally Posted by Jay-Z
    I'm a couple hands down and I'm tryin' to get back
    I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks
  4. #4
    fold hand 2
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  5. #5
    Hand 1: Against a nit a fold but against a guy with those stats I might just shove

    Hand 2: Fold and spew
  6. #6
    Hand 1: push and give him a pat on the back if hes got 33 or the case 9

    Hand 2: Looks like a missed draw trying to make a play or a poorly played set im thinking a set and i probably fold its close though IMO
  7. #7
    hand one -- puuuuuush and feel great about it


    hand two -- puke in your mouth and fold



    in hand two you could have checked/called (on the river), I do this sometimes with big one-pair hands...


  8. #8
    Pretty much what everyone else said. Push hand one, and two is a cake fold.
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    on hand 2 i would have bet at least 70 on turn and then pushed the river
  10. #10
    I'd cry/call hand 2. some fish like to min raise bluff rivers when you bet like that.
    I agree with gabe on bet sizing though since he's soo bad or maybe c/c the river.
  11. #11
    Thanks for the replies guys.

    Its good to hear that most of you push hand 1. I wasn't sure if I should be more worried about being outkicked. But yah, I pushed the turn and villain called with 33.

    Hand 2: I have a veeeeeeeery hard time folding to these weird raises in weird spots by fish. Partly cause I am waay too curious to see just how the fish screwed me this time lol (huge leak yah) But he raised and I called and he had 34 for the rivered straight, blah.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jay-Z
    I'm a couple hands down and I'm tryin' to get back
    I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks

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