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    Default KK 200NL... how do YOU play this

    Hand #42331576-2611 at Farmingdale (No Limit Hold'em)
    Started at 15/May/07 21:57:06

    Gotta Lovit is at seat 0 with $130.65.
    HERO is at seat 1 with $262.
    StayPuft is at seat 2 with $253.55.
    odecat is at seat 3 with $148.
    FineIrishLad is at seat 5 with $235.40.
    Stratagon is at seat 6 with $309.30.
    dahmerdee is at seat 7 with $102.50.
    ChkRazed is at seat 8 with $203.75.
    rockymtnJ is at seat 9 with $191.50.
    The button is at seat 6.

    dahmerdee posts the small blind of $1.
    ChkRazed posts the big blind of $2.

    Gotta Lovit: -- --
    HERO: Kd Kh
    StayPuft: -- --
    odecat: -- --
    FineIrishLad: -- --
    Stratagon: -- --
    dahmerdee: -- --
    ChkRazed: -- --
    rockymtnJ: -- --

    Pre-flop:

    rockymtnJ folds. Gotta Lovit calls. HERO raises to
    $9. StayPuft folds. odecat folds. FineIrishLad
    folds. Stratagon calls. dahmerdee calls. ChkRazed
    calls. Gotta Lovit calls.

    Flop (board: 9s Qh 2h): (5 players to the flop)

    dahmerdee checks. ChkRazed checks. Gotta Lovit
    checks. HERO bets $33. Stratagon raises to $66.
    dahmerdee folds. ChkRazed folds. Gotta Lovit folds.
    HERO calls.

    Turn (board: 9s Qh 2h Jd):

    HERO goes all-in for $187. Stratagon calls.

    River (board: 9s Qh 2h Jd 3s):

    (no action in this round)




    Showdown:

    HERO shows Kd Kh.
    HERO has Kd Kh 9s Qh Jd: a pair of kings.
    Stratagon shows .....
    Stratagon has ......


    Hand #42331576-2611 Summary:

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    I dont have any real reads on VILLIAN. What do you think someone raises min. on flop with here?
    Does anyone dump this on the flop?
    If you call flop, do you check fold the turn? ( I picked up outs and I thought I may still be best so I shoved turn..... is this spew?)

    Opinions would be helpful. Let me know what you guys think.
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    What outs did you get?

    My read is you've got a TPTK hand, going all in against someone who reraised on the flop. Its possible he has AQ and thinks he has TPTK, but thats probably the only hand he'd have reraised (or called) you with that you have beat.
    Just dipping my toes back in.
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    He picked up a gutshot.
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    Oh yeah. I tend to ignore them as you need really good pot odds to count them. I dont like praying for miracles with my stack on the line.
    Just dipping my toes back in.
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    Well, a decision has to be made on the flop as to whether you are going to play for stacks. My first thought with min raises are that my opponent has a hand he really likes and isn't going anywhere. Could be top two, could also be 9-9/2-2. It could also just be a draw trying to get a free look at the turn/river, but i think you lose more when you are against top two/set than you gain pushing draws out on the turn. So, without a read that he frequently min raises draws on the flop or that he always goes nuts with made hands on a drawy flop i am folding this on the flop.

    c/f turn after calling flop is definitely spew though, even if the rest of my analysis is incorrect.
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    if hes unknown meh. KK is too good to fold versus a minraise on this flop IMO. Id felt it on the turn.
  7. #7
    This many players to the flop, minraise, 130bb deep, no read... I'm probably dumping this on the flop. Tough decision though. If I'm going to play it, I like a flop push, to get the most value from flush and str8 draws that could give up on the turn.

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