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    Default why stats don't say much...i think

    i've been datamining FT like hell lately (haven't played on it, since there are better bonuses elsewhere right now)

    anyways, this guy has pretty tag-like stats, but he's on a 17 buyin downswing. at first glance, i can't see anything wrong. maybe you guys can see something i'm not...



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    ok, and to dispel any theories of mega tilt. check out this graph of the sample.

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    First thing I notice is his/her attempts to steal blinds is a little low.

    Minor point, but you asked. My Att to Steal is more like 45-55%
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    im pretty sure a normal att. to steal blinds is around 30%.
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    Sample size. bb/100 is utterly useless after 5000 hands. This doesn't mean that a 5k hand sample is useless, as a lot of other stats converge more quickly. Ie a 25VPIP guy will not be a 50VPIP guy long term if you've seen 5k hands, but a -10bb/100 guy could easily be +bb/100 long term.
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    He's more aggressive on the flop than I am. So maybe he builds big pots, then when he calls down he's loosing a stack?

    That may be causation by correlation.
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    he's folding the river alot. His went to showdown is a little low. I think his hand reading is a little poor. He is losing showdowns too often. I think he's taking the wrong hands and playing the wrong pots to showdown as well. It can be as simple as "Big pots big hands, small pots small hands."
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    hmmm, i'm slightly worried now, because my fold river and flop aggression is pretty similar to this guy. i do steal more tho (currently at 33%).

    anyways, i'm looking into his losing hands right now. and there are quite a few coolers in here, but there are some pretty bad ones. like...really bad.

    if the guy ever finds this thread, here's what you're doing wrong:

    - overpairs and TPGK are not always the nuts, so stop openpushing the flop with them. likewise, quit calling allins on the turn with them.
    - quit 3-barrel bluffing with nothing. if they called 2, they're calling the 3rd 99% of the time.

    maybe this guy's a bot. he pushes every overpair. well at least people can't min-min-re-re-raise him.
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    his W$@SD is 43%, he's running bad.

    But stats don't say much anyway, you're right. Analyze hands and not statistics. If you can't figure out what's wrong with your hands you can go to stats.
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    hes running real bad- i could show u similar sets of 5k hands where I lose as much as fast with similar stats
    I got more flava than fruitstripe gum
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    hmmm, i just realized i fold rivers 71% of the time during my current stretch of 30k hands.....I play TAG 20/16

    Major leak? Can ppl post some river folds %?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexos
    hmmm, i just realized i fold rivers 71% of the time during my current stretch of 30k hands.....I play TAG 20/16

    Major leak? Can ppl post some river folds %?
    yeah, that's a pretty big leak i think. you're folding a lot of winners. or maybe likewise you're not betting enough to fold out others who would have bet if you checked. i'm currently running around low 60% folding to river bet. but it's a small sample and i'm still learning NL so it probably doesn't mean much.
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    the guy has a 43% W$@SD nuff said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexos
    hmmm, i just realized i fold rivers 71% of the time during my current stretch of 30k hands.....I play TAG 20/16

    Major leak? Can ppl post some river folds %?
    mines 71% too but i'm also running bad. This is a 53k hand sample.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan
    the guy has a 43% W$@SD nuff said.
    Please explain briefly
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    Running bad in difficult games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fnord
    Playing bad in difficult games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by |~|ypermegachi
    Quote Originally Posted by Fnord
    Playing bad in difficult games.
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    This is such a misinformed statement. This player has no glaring preflop leaks and has an unnaturally low win $ SD over a small sample of hands in a relatively high variance game. This player could be anywhere from a -1 PT bb/100 loser to a 10 PT bb/100 winner with these stats...
    I got more flava than fruitstripe gum

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