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Turn raise means I'm beat right?

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  1. #1

    Default Turn raise means I'm beat right?

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    I dont like to fold this type of hand against this type of opponent, but his line screams that I am beat.

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    Stack sizes:
    Hero: $280.00
    Button: $98.50
    SB: $107.85
    BB: $69.15

    Pre-flop: (4 players) Hero is UTG with Q A
    Hero raises to $4, Button folds, SB calls, BB calls.

    Flop: A 4 7 ($12, 3 players)
    SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $9, SB calls, BB folds.

    Turn: 2 ($30, 2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $18, SB raises to $36, Hero
  2. #2
    Question is why didn't he raise the flop if he has a real hand?
  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by bigspenda73
    Question is why didn't he raise the flop if he has a real hand?
    because hes a donk and this is exactly how donks play monsters.

    I probably fold but no probs if u felt here.
  4. #4
    nh. i would need more reads to not fold the turn...could def be a flush draw though.

    and maybe im just paranoid, but i'd bet like 24-30 on the turn or just check, since i think a smaller bet is more likely to induce a semibluff/bluff.
  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by bigspenda73
    Question is why didn't he raise the flop if he has a real hand?
    And if not, why didn't he bet the turn?
    After villain checks the turn, you pretty much have to bet. I like to bet a bit more though, 2/3.
    As played, villain could smell weakness after your betsize, so I'd call and re-evaluate after villains river bet/check.
  6. #6
    Yeah I have to call and re-evaluate river in this type of situation.
  7. #7
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    since hes so loose playing AX after a raise is within his range, he's likely to 2p. I don't see what his minraise accomplishes other than to build the pot.
  8. #8
    villian has 35c, called flop with 14 outs. Or possibly A2. Or a slow played set.
  9. #9
    I dont think villain will think my turn bet is weak because from our point of view the pot is only $28. So 18/28 ~ 2/3 pot.

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