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    Default AA - two callers on turn, what to do?

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    Stack sizes:
    UTG: $142.95
    UTG+1: $97.05
    UTG+2: $142.60
    MP1: $98.50
    MP2: $28.15
    MP3: $213.70
    CO: $95.30
    Button: $100.00
    SB: $34.70
    Hero: $109.75

    Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is BB with
    UTG calls, 5 folds, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, Hero raises to $7, UTG calls, CO calls, 2 folds.

    Flop: :Tc: ($23, 3 players)
    Hero bets $25, UTG calls, CO calls.

    Turn: ($98, 3 players)

    Hero ($76.75 left)
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    Hope to hell someone is on a draw and/or TPTK and stick it in.
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    depending on my read, i would either move in or check behind on the turn. Against tricky tight players, i might lean towards checking through and keep the pot small though. otherwise, i would value bet to death against loose passive ones who like to chase any draws or likely have a hand that they think might be the best such as TPGK and TPTK.
  4. #4
    Stick the rest in.
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    Checking here is really terrible.

    Stick the rest in and shout: GIVE ME A DEUCE!!!!
  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by pokerfan
    depending on my read, i would either move in or check behind on the turn.
    We act first.

    Cant check/fold after the overbets so puuush
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fnord
    Checking here is really terrible.

    Stick the rest in and shout: GIVE ME A DEUCE OF SPADES!!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pelion
    Quote Originally Posted by pokerfan
    depending on my read, i would either move in or check behind on the turn.
    We act first.

    Cant check/fold after the overbets so puuush


    sorry, didn't notice that hero is BB.
    Yeah, i'd shove in for sure coz they didn't really show anything but weakness on this drawy flop. On the other hand, it's damm so hard to do pot control when you act first though.
    So put your money in and hope for the best
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    As last to act I'm never checking behind here with 2 opponents in the pot.
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    if i were one of his opponents with TPGK, i would definitely fold to his all-in bet on the turn whatsoever. So if you check through in position , i might pay off a reasonable river bet. Only fish or idiots call his all in bet without nuts or close to nuts.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fnord
    As last to act I'm never checking behind here with 2 opponents in the pot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pokerfan
    if i were one of his opponents with TPGK, i would definitely fold to his all-in bet on the turn whatsoever. So if you check through in position , i might pay off a reasonable river bet. Only fish or idiots call his all in bet without nuts or close to nuts.
    You do realize that there is $97.5 (minus rake) in the pot when the turn card is dealt and that hero can't even make a pot sized bet right? With that big of a pot, and people feeling committed, they will make some stunned calls.
  12. #12
    puuuusssshhhhhhh
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    Flop is draw heavy and you didn't get raised on the flop so push it allin because they likely have TPGK, str8 draw or flush draw. If one of them has 77, then so be it.
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    Getting TPTK and draws to fold here isn't a bad result for us as they surrender their share of equity in the pot and lose the chance to hit you up for a river value bet. Of course we'd rather them call, but either result is good. What isn't good is giving them a free card, then paying off the suck-out. Finally, river extraction is of limited value because a lot of the hands you'll see our opponents have are draws that are at best putting in a bluff on the river.
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    Default Re: AA - two callers on turn, what to do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Borax
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    Stack sizes:
    UTG: $142.95
    UTG+1: $97.05
    UTG+2: $142.60
    MP1: $98.50
    MP2: $28.15
    MP3: $213.70
    CO: $95.30
    Button: $100.00
    SB: $34.70
    Hero: $109.75

    Pre-flop: (10 players) Hero is BB with
    UTG calls, 5 folds, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, Hero raises to $7, UTG calls, CO calls, 2 folds.

    Flop: :Tc: ($23, 3 players)
    Hero bets $25, UTG calls, CO calls.

    Turn: ($98, 3 players)

    Hero ($76.75 left)
    Thank you for the discussion. I appreciate the feedback and feel better about my play now.

    What happened?
    I pushed the turn and they both called. UTG showed KK and took the $313,8 pot. CO mucked.
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    just put a note on UTG who slowplayed big PP and BIG hand all the way down.
    Next time he called your hefty bet again, you should slow down your single pair and proceed with cautions., especially on the later streets
  17. #17
    I think you played it fine, bad luck. But if you want to reduce your variance, you can also not bomb the flop so hard, bet like $16, that way the pot doesn't get out of control so fast, and you'll then check the turn and see what happens, probably folding if they bet hard after you. It's kinda weak, but you can decide on which route to take depending on how the table plays. If they're all nutcamping I'd be more wary to just stack off for 100BB with AA..
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    don't worry about it, some hands you are destined to lose
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    Quote Originally Posted by jackvance
    I think you played it fine, bad luck. But if you want to reduce your variance, you can also not bomb the flop so hard, bet like $16, that way the pot doesn't get out of control so fast, and you'll then check the turn and see what happens, probably folding if they bet hard after you. It's kinda weak, but you can decide on which route to take depending on how the table plays. If they're all nutcamping I'd be more wary to just stack off for 100BB with AA..
    Normal variance is fine with me. I never really tilt
    But, I seem to have had problems with getting paid for my big hands and therefore I have started to bet harder on all streets. Unfortunately I have been running into several situations like the given hand lately...
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