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    Default When the fish minraises preflop

    How should I be bet sizing when the fish who's like 65-80/3/1 minraises and I have a raising hand? For clarification every hand the fish raises is a minraise.
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    If he's raising just 3% then I'd fold unless I had a monster ie AA KK AKs. Then 3.5x re-raise. However these types can play quite well in multi-pots (with position) with sc, Axs, pps, since they are pretty much playing their cards open. A lot depends on table make up, and size of stacks. Basically you don't want someone to reaise behind you after you flat call, and the fish needs a decent enough stack to pay you off with, Assuming your talking pre-flop. Post flop HU any fish who min raises me I reraise to 3/4 pot with any cards (unless he's giving cheap cards, which is pretty often), Generally this is a sign of weakness and 90% of the time they fold. In middle positon I prefer to reraise as well since calling a min raise seems to admit having nothing.

    Hope this advice is correct feel free to critisise anyone!
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    Always fold to a 3% min raiserwithout AA KK or QQ and maybe AK if you know how to lay down a K high flop.
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    sample size?
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    That's been my line of thinking. Thanks for confirming guys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sauce123
    I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer_jyms
    Always fold to a 3% min raiserwithout AA KK or QQ and maybe AK if you know how to lay down a K high flop.
    Why wouldnt you be calling with speculative hands since hes going to be stacking off easily with alot of the hands he raising with? 3% of hands is 99+ and AKs so some he might not be stacking off with but hes going to be with alot of his raising range since he doesnt sound like that great of a player with those stats. Also sample size would help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galapogos
    Call and hope to hit big.
    Why would u fold if he has a great hand and know he'll stack off.

    Obv don't call with AQ hoping to hit a A28 flop, but u know what i mean
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer_jyms
    Always fold to a 3% min raiserwithout AA KK or QQ and maybe AK if you know how to lay down a K high flop.
    Thats a terrible fold. Hes turned his hand faceup. Call with any potential and get it in if you can beat an overpair.
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    Don't raise and don't fold
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    hehehehe.
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    Yep. I always call these because they give us such remarkable implied odds. We risk a little for alot, and we dont even need to think. Flop big, get paid!
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    I was thinking about calling/raising in this situation at work today. When someone this nitty raises PF why don't we raise? Besides the fact that we're behind their range I feel we don't raise b/c it cuts down on our implied odds later in the hand.

    Here's what I mean. If we 3bet Pf we are playing with much shallower stacks postflop which means some/a lot of the edge we had PF by knowing their hand range is gone. Also, it removes the room for calling light on later streets. With less money behind are implied odds are greatly reduced. If we keep the pot small early in the hand (knowing we can bloat it later) then we can call cbets with gutshots, underpairs, etc.. knowing very well that we can get full stacks in if we connect. A typical cbet might be 3-4bbs when we both have 48bb's behind. However in a 3bet/4bet pot it might be 15bbs when we only have 40bbs behind.

    That's a ramble that probably makes no sense but I just wanted to type it out and see what everyone says about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexos
    Quote Originally Posted by Galapogos
    Call and hope to hit big.
    Why would u fold if he has a great hand and know he'll stack off.

    Obv don't call with AQ hoping to hit a A28 flop, but u know what i mean
    Are you talking to me? Aren't we saying the same thing?


    Quote Originally Posted by sauce123
    I don't get why you insist on stacking off with like jack high all the time.

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