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    Default 100NL: QQ on J high flop

    EverestPoker Game #1887920294: Table Moroni-17 - $0.50/$1 - No Limit Hold'em - 00:29:55 - 2007/08/03
    Seat 1: Aardbei ($77.70)
    Seat 2: AsiaFresh ($214.90)
    Seat 3: sebnathbrice ($38.55)
    Seat 4: Bill_Baroud2 ($43.80)
    Seat 5: Dean2007 ($83.13)
    Seat 6: Hero ($123.15)
    Seat 8: BornToBeMild ($100.95)
    Seat 9: SlapHapy ($180.30)
    Seat 10: petervanb069 ($87.50)
    petervanb069 posts the small blind of $0.50
    Aardbei posts the big blind of $1.00
    The button is in seat #9
    *** HOLE CARDS ***
    Dealt to Hero[ ]
    AsiaFresh folds
    sebnathbrice folds
    Bill_Baroud2 folds
    Dean2007 folds
    Hero raises to $4.00
    BornToBeMild calls $4.00
    SlapHapy calls $4.00
    petervanb069 folds
    Aardbei folds
    *** FLOP *** [ ] (pot: $13.50)
    Hero bets $9.00
    BornToBeMild raises to $40.50
    SlapHapy folds
    Hero ???

    was 48/7/4.5 (75 hands)
    The previous hand I re-raised his min flop bet, bet strong on the turn and he folded.
    On this hand I can only put him on a flush draw, do you think AA/KK also plays like this???
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    take a choice IMO. Either call and c/bomb turn if you know he'll bet or just push now.
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    Is just pushing the flop bad here?
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    Fold or push. Lean towards push...

    Unlikely AA/KK

    I see AKs, JJ, AJ,88, 44, TT!, XX on the flop here. Someone put a calculator on that, but I think you'll find right around 50/50...So I guess the question is, do you feel lucky punk?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deanglow
    Is just pushing the flop bad here?
    not really on certain sites. You can still openely push an overpair on a low flop and get paid by full buy in donks on non US sites.

    Even blind battles these days can be fun...

    Hand 691,896,125, Started at 08/08/2007 10:20 AM (EDT)
    Table 'Mendocino': $2-$2 No Limit HE (Real)
    Seat 3: JackBurton1 ($195 in chips)
    Seat 5: MyMumHasAIDS ($487.35 in chips)
    Seat 6: StickMaister ($125.75 in chips)
    Seat 8: willy606 ($76 in chips)
    *** Blind Bet Round *** :
    JackBurton1 : Post Blind ($1)
    MyMumHasAIDS : Post Blind ($2)
    Dealt to MyMumHasAIDS: Ad
    Dealt to MyMumHasAIDS: Jd
    *** Pre-Flop *** :
    StickMaister : Fold
    willy606 : Fold
    JackBurton1 : Call ($1)
    MyMumHasAIDS : Bet ($7)
    JackBurton1 : Call ($7)
    *** Flop *** : 9h 6s As
    JackBurton1 : Check
    MyMumHasAIDS : Bet ($13)
    JackBurton1 : Raise ($33)
    MyMumHasAIDS : Raise ($465.35)
    MyMumHasAIDS : All In ($478.35)
    JackBurton1 : Call ($153)
    JackBurton1 : All In ($186)
    *** Turn *** : [ 9h 6s As ] Kc
    *** River *** : [ 9h 6s As Kc ] Qs
    Dealt to JackBurton1: 4c
    Dealt to JackBurton1: Ah
    Dealt to MyMumHasAIDS: Ad
    Dealt to MyMumHasAIDS: Jd
    MyMumHasAIDS : Show Cards
    JackBurton1 : Show Cards
    *** SUMMARY ***
    Pot: $680.35 | Rake: $2
    Board: [ 9h 6s As Kc Qs ]
    JackBurton1 lost $195 Shows [ 4c Ah ] (a pair of Aces)
    MyMumHasAIDS bet $487.35, collected $680.35, net $193 Shows [ Ad Jd ] (a pair of Aces)
    StickMaister lost $0
    willy606 lost $0
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    I lean towards pushing the flop. Miffed, what happens if we just call to try and get it in on the turn and a 3rd club hits? Kill ourself?
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    Quote Originally Posted by martindcx1e
    I lean towards pushing the flop. Miffed, what happens if we just call to try and get it in on the turn and a 3rd club hits? Kill ourself?
    it happens 30% of the time but the 2 times opp has committed waaaay to much to the pot with the worst hand. But yes, pushing remains as the best option that only a decent tp or pair+fd call (and other times when we are beaten) so that its def +ev in these games (and on this site)
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    he may be re-raising a draw or top pair, I doubt he has 2p, but only really worried about a set...I think that he wouldn't bet one so strongly, so I just get all my money in and pray he isn't holding like AKS and is donking with AJ or something

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