50NL: Another QQ hand

[jimmy44]

EverestPoker Game #1872011976: Table Berlin-19 - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 15:14:14 - 2007/07/30
Seat 1: YellowPecora ($70.70)
Seat 3: konigke ($33.95)
Seat 5: goudson ($24.50)
Seat 6: Hero ($52.25)
Seat 8: erikenpeer ($48.15)
Seat 9: Tomzsi ($57.25)
goudson posts the small blind of $0.25
Hero posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero[ ]
erikenpeer folds
Tomzsi raises to $1.00
YellowPecora folds
konigke folds
goudson folds
Hero raises to $4.50
Tomzsi calls $3.50
*** FLOP *** [ ] (pot: $9.75)
Hero checks
Tomzsi bets $2.75
Hero ????

tomzsi was 30/8/4. No specific reads on opp. Would a call flop/bet turn be the bets line here? Or would you raise the flop instead?

[martindcx1e]

Look to hit a K for cheap. I wouldn't raise the flop.

[Miffed22001]

call.
Folding isnt exactly bad as you expect to have a large edge without needing to fish for a king here IMO.

[ChrisBCritter]

Call, re-evaluate on turn, hope for a K and NOT a Q! Considering PF, that weak bet on the flop screams strength, not weak.

[Miffed22001]

Call, re-evaluate on turn, hope for a K and NOT a Q! Considering PF, that weak bet on the flop screams strength, not weak.

i dont always agree. Id donk raise this sometimes and follow up on a blank turn because opp wants to chase and prob has some piece of it.
But at 50nl its more liekly they arent going to fold to two barrels and chase it anyway or follow down with A4o than they are at 200nl for example.

But as i said, we should have a big enough edge on the game to not even need to compete this pot 9/10 times because well get more money in the pot in better spots with much more equity. (set vs tp etc)

[Trashcona]

...But as i said, we should have a big enough edge on the game to not even need to compete this pot 9/10 times because well get more money in the pot in better spots with much more equity. (set vs tp etc)

Thanks for posting this. I sometimes forget that we don't have to fight for certain hands against the fishies, because there are so many other spots that they are willing to get all their money in with the worst of it.

[Miffed22001]

...But as i said, we should have a big enough edge on the game to not even need to compete this pot 9/10 times because well get more money in the pot in better spots with much more equity. (set vs tp etc)

Thanks for posting this. I sometimes forget that we don't have to fight for certain hands against the fishies, because there are so many other spots that they are willing to get all their money in with the worst of it.

its really hard to do when you finally get the tough reg to reraise you when you have aces only for the flop to be KKx and him to open push 100bbs or so
but yes, its something we can all forget when we get big pairs

[mixchange]

I prefer to lead here for $6.50 and spike a non club king if called.

very opponent dependent though, at 50nl ive seen some people only raise Ax and JJ+, against those types of players I just fold on the flop

[martindcx1e]

I prefer to lead here for $6.50

why do you like betting more than checking?

[mixchange]

Because I feel like I'm calling a bet, so I might as well make it.