20NL QQ facing re raise

[acesfullokings]

Villian is unknown. What to do?

Noble Poker 0.10/0.20, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker

saw flop | saw showdown

Button ($18.83)
SB ($7.43)
BB Hero ($26.79)
UTG ($17.75)
UTG+1 ($9.63)

Preflop: Hero is in the BB with Q Q
UTG raises to 0.80, 2 folds, SB calls 0.70, Hero raises to 2.40, UTG raises to 4, 1 fold, Hero ????

[Pelion]

I probably call and play very carefully postflop. How does the game usually play? Is a 4bet usually AA/KK?

[acesfullokings]

I probably call and play very carefully postflop. How does the game usually play? Is a 4bet usually AA/KK?

I haven't really encountered many 4 bets at all since moving to iPoker so I can't really say. But his 4BB raise then his re raise seemed strong to me.

[biondino]

At this level he's got AA or KK. I honestl reckon you can fold here.

[bigspenda73]

I'd call and either c/f or b/f all low flops.

[bigspenda73]

At this level he's got AA or KK. I honestl reckon you can fold here.

you cannot fold here ever, sure you can fold the flop, but PF it's a minraise in an already multi-way pot with nice implied odds.

[acesfullokings]

At this level he's got AA or KK. I honestl reckon you can fold here.

you cannot fold here ever, sure you can fold the flop, but PF it's a minraise in an already multi-way pot with nice implied odds.

I'm not sure the implied odds are so good here, the 3rd player has already folded by the time it gets to me, and I'm not getting 10-1 on his $1.60 raise so if I think he has KK+ then isn't this a fold?

[Pelion]

I'm not getting 10-1 on his $1.60 raise

Yes you are.

[bigspenda73]

It's the fun world of NL hold thems and implied odds

[acesfullokings]

I'm not getting 10-1 on his $1.60 raise

Yes you are.

You Sure?

He starts with $17.75, he raises to 0.8 => 16.95, then when he bumps it to $4 won't he only have 13.75 when 10-1 on $1.60 is $16?

Am I wrong with that math?

[euphoricism]

if you can *gaurantee* stacking him, you only need 8:1.

[acesfullokings]

if you can *gaurantee* stacking him, you only need 8:1.

I don't know enough about his play to guarantee it

[bigspenda73]

I'm not getting 10-1 on his $1.60 raise

Yes you are.

You Sure?

He starts with $17.75, he raises to 0.8 => 16.95, then when he bumps it to $4 won't he only have 13.75 when 10-1 on $1.60 is $16?

Am I wrong with that math?

don't forget about all the money in the pot already