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  1. #1

    Default marginal spot in squeezed pot

    Villain in this hand is Mroneputt. He plays about 18/11 and seems pretty nitty, not that aggressive, but not passive either. I haven't played 1/2 6-max in a while so we haven't played together in a while.

    My image is probably solid, kinda aggro. I don't squeeze a lot and he probably thinks this too.

    The other guy in the hand is a huge fish.

    Who thinks c/f? Please describe your plan if you bet or c/f.

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    Button ($112)
    Hero ($192)
    BB ($132.60)
    UTG ($446.25)
    MP ($215)
    CO ($290.15)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with Q, Q.
    UTG raises to $8, MP calls $8, 2 folds, Hero raises to $34, 1 fold, UTG calls $26, MP calls $26.

    Flop: ($104) J, 7, T (3 players)
    [color=#CC3333]Hero ??????

    My best reads:

    1. Out of all the times oneputt raised AA or KK UTG here, he'd probably cold call with them 25% of the time and 4-bet or shove the rest of the time.
    2. AK is definitely in his range. He will almost never bluff raise it on the flop.
    3. I doubt he has AJ, KQ, or QJ but it's not impossible.
  2. #2
    bet for info vs the one you have all those reads on, and for value vs the huge fish.
  3. #3
    I don't see AA, KK here, because I think either one 4-bets into two opponents with either.

    Though both are still likely, I would say that TT, and JJ are more often here. It's a pretty good sized pot though, so I think I bet out. If there is a raise and call, I fold. If there is a fold, and MP shoves, I probably call.
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  4. #4
    b/f, doesnt even have to be much, half pot should do it.
    If he calls c/f rest.

    I probably rasie to 32 pre but it doesnt really matter.
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  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by Unibomber14
    I don't see AA, KK here, because I think either one 4-bets into two opponents with either.
    If I have AA here (UTG) I might just call preflop because I dont want to lose the huge fish in a situation where I am going to stack him alot with any pair postflop (in such an inflated pot). Is this bad?
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  6. #6
    i like half pot also
    I got more flava than fruitstripe gum
  7. #7
    ak, qq and 99 are most likely hands since sets are hard to flop

    villain will fold QQ if he's smart since your perceived range is sets, better overpairs and AK.

    I d be reluctant to bet 1/2 pot here since I think you may get played back at by AK so I'd bet about 2/3 to 3/4 and fold really quickly to a push
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
  8. #8
    yea, pseudo-committing your stack seems better than betting weakly.
  9. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by Genitruc
    ak, qq and 99 are most likely hands since sets are hard to flop

    villain will fold QQ if he's smart since your perceived range is sets, better overpairs and AK.

    I d be reluctant to bet 1/2 pot here since I think you may get played back at by AK so I'd bet about 2/3 to 3/4 and fold really quickly to a push
    gen- we r stacking off to donk happily. other villain knows this and so will not get fancy and shove airballs (AK) as donk will call down with AJ
    I got more flava than fruitstripe gum
  10. #10
    Ok... I bet a little harder than the consensus. Now i have six outs.

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    Button ($112)
    Hero ($192)
    BB ($132.60)
    UTG ($446.25)
    MP ($215)
    CO ($290.15)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with Q, Q.
    UTG raises to $8, MP calls $8, 2 folds, Hero raises to $34, 1 fold, UTG calls $26, MP calls $26.

    Flop: ($104) J, 7, T (3 players)
    Hero bets $70, UTG calls $70, MP folds.

    Turn: ($244) 8 (2 players)
    [color=#CC3333]Hero ?????
  11. #11
    turn is a very easy c/f
    I got more flava than fruitstripe gum
  12. #12
    good point about impact of donk on villain's flop play sauce

    guess i got ahead of myself thinking of it HU cuz UTG is described as Villain.

    Btw I m very tempted to shove turn here (gasp)
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
  13. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by sauce123
    turn is a very easy c/f
    second

    Quote Originally Posted by pelion
    If I have AA here (UTG) I might just call preflop because I dont want to lose the huge fish in a situation where I am going to stack him alot with any pair postflop (in such an inflated pot). Is this bad?
    Personally, If there is going to be a multiway flop, I'd rather be as close to stacked as possible preflop. I don't mind losing the fish if it will drastically increase my equity in the hand.

    Plus, my decisions on later streets will probably be more complex with the extra player.
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  14. #14
    on flop i bet half pot and give up and obv am not happy about it..
    he folds missed overs and what stays in beats u for that.

    edit: checking is good too imo.
  15. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by Unibomber14
    Quote Originally Posted by sauce123
    turn is a very easy c/f
    second

    Quote Originally Posted by pelion
    If I have AA here (UTG) I might just call preflop because I dont want to lose the huge fish in a situation where I am going to stack him alot with any pair postflop (in such an inflated pot). Is this bad?
    Personally, If there is going to be a multiway flop, I'd rather be as close to stacked as possible preflop. I don't mind losing the fish if it will drastically increase my equity in the hand.

    Plus, my decisions on later streets will probably be more complex with the extra player.
    not sure why you think getting rid of the fish would increase your equity in any way. Lower your variance? Sure. Increase your equity? Not likely.
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    if ur ahead it will be checked down.
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    if you start puahing this flop with ak then it bwcomes easy to push qq dor
    value

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