$11 SnG, Call river..?

[badgers]

Opp is OK, not great. Has had it every time on the river so far, but he is betting too frequently for me to believe him. I'm getting over 3:1 but it's such a dangerous board. I don't know if he's bad enough to bet with the Q here, I think it's possible. He could also have a busted FD. I've seen him float before as well so it could be total air. Feels like I'm being taken down value town though... Fold?

Sorry it's not converted, I've tried manually.

Seat 2: rodasjef1981 ( 2,010 )
Seat 1: badgers_uk Button( 1,990 )

Blinds 30/60

** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to badgers_uk [ Qc Tc ]
badgers_uk raises [120] to 150
rodasjef1981 calls [90]

** Dealing Flop ** [ Jh, Ts, 9s ] Pot 300
rodasjef1981 checks
badgers_uk bets [240]
rodasjef1981 calls [240]

** Dealing Turn ** [ Qd ]Pot 780
rodasjef1981 checks
badgers_uk checks

** Dealing River ** [ 9c ]Pot 780
rodasjef1981 bets [300]
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badgers_uk ........?

[badgers]

Saw this and thought of this thread for some reason...

ok, so no one has responded.

am i a donk?

tear me apart i want to get better.

One word answers appreciated.

[Ash256]

ugh

[badgers]

ugh

I was thinking more along the lines of call/ fold

This makes me feel less donkish though...

[Ash256]

Ah, fuck him, I spite-call.

[bjsaust]

I cant find a way to justify calling on that board. I would have lead turn, it was a good scare card, but now you've let him use it against you.

[badgers]

I cant find a way to justify calling on that board. I would have lead turn, it was a good scare card, but now you've let him use it against you.

So you're saying you think there's a good chance he's bluffing but we shouldn't call?

[bjsaust]

I'm saying that if we lead turn and he has nothing theres a good chance he'll fold. If we lead turn and he c/r's us we can probably fold and feel ok. Now that we didnt do that and we're on the river, his bet screams value bet to me. That turn check could be a trap or it could be weakness. The river bet is more likely to be a value bet than a bluff. Unless our plan on the turn was to check and induce a bluff, then we shouldnt call here.

He may be bluffing or only have 1 pair, but we missed our best chance to find out.

[badgers]

I've been thinking about this and I really hate betting the turn. I know this spot is gross and betting the turn is easier but surely it loses value - if we are willing to invest more in this pot surely it is better to check and call a river bet. This has the advantage that we will occasionally catch a bluff and we will often see a free showdown.

If we aren't willing to call this river there's no way we should bet the turn, we should just shut down.

I may well be miles off though....