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    Default I never fold boats... but....

    should I fold here?

    -CO was running 27/6/1.8 over about 200ish hands, no other real reads on him over so few hands
    - BTN was running similar, 27/8/3 over another 200ish hands. I haven't played either before
    -I have no problem felting this and calling it a 'cooler', but on the turn realistically what hands can I be facing that I'm beating? AK/ both players have a bare T?
    -The problem is that IF any player had a T, i figured having an A or 9 kicker would be the most likely hand other than JT

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    Stack sizes:
    UTG: $255.11
    CO: $644.50
    Button: $134
    SB: $678.90
    Hero: $508

    Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is BB with
    UTG folds, CO raises to $15, Button calls, SB folds, Hero calls $10 (pot was $37).

    Flop: ($47, 3 players)
    Hero checks, CO checks, Button checks.

    Turn: ($47, 3 players)
    Hero checks, CO bets $15, Button calls, Hero raises to $50, CO raises to $115, Button raises all-in $119, Hero calls/raises/folds?
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    we cant give button a ton of credit here, and besides it looks like hes taking a donk line w/ a T.

    CO is a different story. He isnt doing this without AA/Tx, but his T may not have boated up so i think i would shove it and call it a cooler if he flips over a boat also.
    eeevees are not monies yet...they are like baby monies.
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    meh, disreguard that second part. CO's stats being 27/6 make me thinnk this is more heavily weighted towards AA. I dont have pokerstove installed on this computer, but i dont see many hands w/ a 10 that he is raising here.
    eeevees are not monies yet...they are like baby monies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bode
    meh, disreguard that second part. CO's stats being 27/6 make me thinnk this is more heavily weighted towards AA. I dont have pokerstove installed on this computer, but i dont see many hands w/ a 10 that he is raising here.
    Yah I was thinking this too, I'm not sure whats in a nits range to check through an A high flop.. and then 3-bet after getting c/r'd AND called on the turn.

    Id imagine most ppl will still say push because its only 100bb's, but how would this hand change if

    a) CO and I were 150-200bb's
    b) button also had 100bb's and was raising to $300 instead of all in for 119 on the turn
    Quote Originally Posted by Jay-Z
    I'm a couple hands down and I'm tryin' to get back
    I gave the other grip, I lost a flip for five stacks
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    co is either really good at repping a donk playing a AA/TT/AT, or he actually is one.
    but, arg he might have "switched gears" or something and have just trips.
    tough spot, i guess call w/ those odds and b/f river for like 1/2 a stack?
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    Maybe i'm a nit but i think this is call/call. And i'd probably take the same line if the co had 200BB unless he overshoved the river.
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    I'd say it's a fold because you're right, you're really not beating anything. I'm mostly afraid of the CO. He 3-bet you on the turn even though the button called his initial turn bet as well so he's not showing a lot of fear.

    Unless of course you know they overvalue hands then it's an easy call.


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    You gotta be beat here.. time to make a hero laydown
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    Quote Originally Posted by Massimo
    Maybe i'm a nit but i think this is call/call. And i'd probably take the same line if the co had 200BB unless he overshoved the river.
    I probably do same..

    As played, pukefold i guess... i hate it thought

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