88 against 4-bet

[Numbr2intheWorld]

Villain is a 28/25 over 40 hands... I feel like his range is really skewed towards AK.


Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (6 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

MP ($331.60)
Hero ($529)
Button ($74)
SB ($331.10)
BB ($400)
UTG ($465.60)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 8, 8.
1 fold, MP raises to $14, Hero raises to $44, 3 folds, MP raises to $149, Hero ????

[IowaSkinsFan]

With only that information fold. If he was in pos i'd consider it much more. You don't need to stack off with 88 to make threebetting like a monkey profitable.

[sauce123]

k shove

[Roel]

hmm... call me tight but why protect 11bb when you are a flip at best?

[bode]

with only 40 hands on villaiin i think this is a clear fold. If you had seen him 4bet and show down AK a few times before then i think you could justify it but it just doesnt really make sense with no reads.

[Ash256]

Reasons for this move = decent pot equity + a tiny bit of fold equity + IMAGE

amirite?

[Roel]

not saying it's the right play, but does anyone consider a stop n go here? the end result is probably the same, but you increase fold equity i think.

Just thinking out loud

[IowaSkinsFan]

not saying it's the right play, but does anyone consider a stop n go here? the end result is probably the same, but you increase fold equity i think.

Just thinking out loud

There is 0 FE no matter what we do so no, i dont think its a good idea. Look at Mp's stack.

[bigslikk]

I've heard that a four bet = aces. True, this is a six-handed game, but you're telling me a four bet = AK? Fold for crissakes.

[griffey24]

I've heard that a four bet = aces. True, this is a six-handed game, but you're telling me a four bet = AK? Fold for crissakes.

four bet can deeeeeeeeefinitely = AK or worse sometimes. higher up in stakes.. the more 3-betting.. so the more likely a four-bet is AK.

I think the push/fold really depends on how many times you've 3-bet him so far?

I try to avoid stacking here cause we're at best a flip.. but if you've 3-bet him a lot I'd think about it stronger.

[gabe]

dont 3 bet if u dont know what to do

but i guess 3 betting and calling everytime will eventually lead you to what you should do

[Numbr2intheWorld]

dont 3 bet if u dont know what to do

Well he just surprised me with his bet size...

[Pelion]

dont 3 bet if u dont know what to do

Thats poor logic. If someone will almost every time but will occasionally make a stand with 2 cards (but not often enough) and will also sometimes turn up with aces then 3 betting is still +++++EV and we dont know what to do if he 4 bets.

[bigspenda73]

players are much more inclined to 4bet AK than aces and it's easier to be dealt AK yo

[Renton]

pretty garbage 3bet. What are you trying to accomplish by 3betting a hand that plays so perfectly vs a player of this type in a coldcall scenario?