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3-3/A-Qs 600NL

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    Default 3-3/A-Qs 600NL

    The 600NL tables were looking super soft this morning so i sat down at a couple tables.

    1). Villain is a 40/12 and aggressive. Besides calling down pretty light he seems to be playing okay. I ran a bluff against him earlier and he called me down. The first hand is the bluff. **I ran this bluff before i knew he was calling down a little light.


    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $6 BB (6 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    CO ($299.75)
    Button ($680.20)
    SB ($520.25)
    BB ($203.70)
    UTG ($693.75)
    Hero ($600)

    Preflop: Hero is MP with 6, 8.
    1 fold, Hero raises to $24, 1 fold, Button calls $24, 2 folds.

    Flop: ($57) J, T, 5 (2 players)
    Hero bets $42, Button calls $42.

    Turn: ($141) 5 (2 players)
    Hero bets $112, Button calls $112.

    River: ($365) 2 (2 players)
    Hero bets $202, Button calls $202.

    Final Pot: $769
    He had K-Jo


    Here is the hand im wondering about: Do you like a small turn lead (~200) or a small overbet shove better? It took place about a half hour after the first hand.

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $6 BB (6 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    MP ($269.85)
    CO ($1339.70)
    Button ($841.05)
    SB ($594)
    BB ($641.85)
    Hero ($794.85)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with 3, 3.
    Hero raises to $24, 1 fold, CO raises to $54, 3 folds, Hero calls $30.

    Flop: ($117) 7, 3, A (2 players)
    Hero checks, CO bets $36, Hero raises to $186, CO calls $150.

    Turn: ($489) 4 (2 players)
    Hero bets $554.85 (All-In)


    2). Villain is sitting at multiple 600NL tables. He recently stacked off on another table, but the hand was very standard. I have not gotten involved in any big pots since he sat down and i've never played with him before at a lower limit. I figured he would be betting a hand like 7-7 on the river. How is the river bet size? Is a check/shove better?

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $6 BB (6 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    CO ($1742.15)
    Button ($902.85)
    Hero ($952.85)
    BB ($664.30)
    UTG ($591)
    MP ($315)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with A, Q.
    3 folds, Button calls $6, Hero raises to $30, BB calls $24, Button calls $24.

    Flop: ($90) 3, J, J (3 players)
    Hero bets $66, BB calls $66, Button folds.

    Turn: ($222) 6 (2 players)
    Hero checks, BB checks.

    River: ($222) 3 (2 players)
    Hero checks, BB bets $170, Hero raises to $370


    *Posted in the HS Forum as well but im sure P4's, sauce and co. would agree these hands aren't super expert or anything lol so i moved them here too so hopefully more people will look at them.
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    I like the 333 hand. I think he'll get mad suspicious and call with a wide range.

    Whats the button like in hand 2? I'd be pretty inclined to check the flop 3 way OOP.
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    lol the last one is nice, just make it a little bigger so he doesn't convince himself into calling with TT
    when the vpip's are high and the value bets are like razors, who can be safe?
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    1st one you should either make a bigger bet size or a smaller one.

    2nd one goot

    3rd one is quite bad. It's plausible that he has a J and i doubt he's betting 77 on the river unless he's bad, it's too thin imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Massimo
    1st one you should either make a bigger bet size or a smaller one.

    2nd one goot

    3rd one is quite bad. It's plausible that he has a J and i doubt he's betting 77 on the river unless he's bad, it's too thin imo.

    1). This is because his range is polarized right? I just randomly suddenly understood this after reading something Renton wrote and then looking at a HH.


    2). is it the best line in a vacuum though?


    value betting 7-7 there versus an unknown seems fine to me. i guess you like check/fold best.

    I'm trying to figure out whether check/shoving is better for my entire range with the stack sizes as they are or if my smaller check/raise was better. I'll take you and gabe's word that the check/raise isn't good here but what do you think about this move/sizing in similar situations?
    Quote Originally Posted by Carroters
    Ambition is fucking great, but you're trying to dig up gold with a rocket launcher and are going to blow the whole lot to shit unless you refine your tools
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irisheyes
    I like the 333 hand. I think he'll get mad suspicious and call with a wide range.

    Whats the button like in hand 2? I'd be pretty inclined to check the flop 3 way OOP.
    1). heh he said in the chat he folded A-K (i felt a little sick )

    2). he seemed decent and TAGish, but i didn't have any specific reads on him
    Quote Originally Posted by Carroters
    Ambition is fucking great, but you're trying to dig up gold with a rocket launcher and are going to blow the whole lot to shit unless you refine your tools
  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by Massimo
    1st one you should either make a bigger bet size or a smaller one.

    2nd one goot

    3rd one is quite bad. It's plausible that he has a J and i doubt he's betting 77 on the river unless he's bad, it's too thin imo.
    exactly my thoughts

    for the 3rd one I rly prefer c/f there, I doubt hes gonna give u credit for a hand even if he only has something like 77. If u had AA here wouldnt u bet river to get value from smaller PP's like 90% of the time? Imo this is too fancy and not worth it.
  9. #9
    I don't think vbetting 77 is quite bad on hand 3, i think its very marginal but depending on VZK's timing or what not on the hand and that fact that VZK himself could very well vbet 88+ makes it not bad.
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    the 333 hand i actually think it's better to lead 90. He's not folding any big pairs and will probably get it in with any Ace
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    yea, against the player u talked about in the 33 hand making a lead of 1/3 pot is almost surely best- u want to leave btw 3/5 pot and 3/4 pot for the river
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    Quote Originally Posted by sauce123
    yea, against the player u talked about in the 33 hand making a lead of 1/3 pot is almost surely best- u want to leave btw 3/5 pot and 3/4 pot for the river
    If we lead turn for 1/3 and he calls and the river is a club we still have to stack off right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by thizzSantaCruz
    Quote Originally Posted by sauce123
    yea, against the player u talked about in the 33 hand making a lead of 1/3 pot is almost surely best- u want to leave btw 3/5 pot and 3/4 pot for the river
    If we lead turn for 1/3 and he calls and the river is a club we still have to stack off right?
    he has CC here less than 1% of the time. club is bad cause he folds more often...
    I got more flava than fruitstripe gum

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