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    Default When to raise PPs preflop?

    I've seen some people raise 77,88,99...something I've never done. Maybe from BU/CO, but EP I limp/call usually with mid PPs.

    Raise from EP with TT/JJ/QQ?

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    sometimes you need to mix it up, once you start playing the same way then your opponents will know that when you raise you have a big hand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mrhappy333
    sometimes you need to mix it up, once you start playing the same way then your opponents will know that when you raise you have a big hand.
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    I'll open raise all PPs if first in from any position. I'll std raise one limper w/99 + to isolate and hopefully take the pot down PF or w/ a cbet from any position. I'll std raise JJ+ against any number of limpers. I'll 3-bet AA-KK.

    Raising all PPs does a couple of things for me. 1) It gives me the oppty to take the pot down with a c-bet regardless of whether I hit my flop. This allows me to win hands with 22-55 that didn't set and that I'd have had to just fold otherwise. 2) It builds the pot for when I do hit the set. If I set on a flush-draw board and have to lead out w/ a PSB to price out draws, I usually find everyone folds and I take the pot right down there. With the PFR, this results in a bigger pot. If it's a good board and can play for value, it's easier to build the pot to stacks. 3) If I miss my set w/ mid-low PP and get push-back on my cbet, it's pretty easy for me to just drop the hand and move on. And 4) It increases the number of hands I PFR, so there's an automatic bluffing element built in to raising 22-55 in EP... means I'm not QUITE playing face-up with AA or KK UTG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarbox68
    I'll open raise all PPs if first in from any position. I'll std raise one limper w/99 + to isolate and hopefully take the pot down PF or w/ a cbet from any position. I'll std raise JJ+ against any number of limpers. I'll 3-bet AA-KK.

    Raising all PPs does a couple of things for me. 1) It gives me the oppty to take the pot down with a c-bet regardless of whether I hit my flop. This allows me to win hands with 22-55 that didn't set and that I'd have had to just fold otherwise. 2) It builds the pot for when I do hit the set. If I set on a flush-draw board and have to lead out w/ a PSB to price out draws, I usually find everyone folds and I take the pot right down there. With the PFR, this results in a bigger pot. If it's a good board and can play for value, it's easier to build the pot to stacks. 3) If I miss my set w/ mid-low PP and get push-back on my cbet, it's pretty easy for me to just drop the hand and move on. And 4) It increases the number of hands I PFR, so there's an automatic bluffing element built in to raising 22-55 in EP... means I'm not QUITE playing face-up with AA or KK UTG.

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    this is good info
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    Assume a 9-handed table.

    I open 66+ from UTG, UTG+1, and UTG+2. I open all other PP from all other positions.

    I limp behind more than one limper with something like 22-77. I limp behind one limper if I'm in EP or MP with a similar range.

    I raise 88+ from all positions regardless of the number of limpers (unless it's like 5 limpers, then I'll probably limp behind with something like 22-TT or so). When there is only a single limper, I isolate in LP with all PPs.

    If I'm facing a raise, I auto-3bet QQ+ and play the rest player-dependent.
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    Default Re: When to raise PPs preflop?

    Quote Originally Posted by d0zer
    Raise from EP with TT/JJ/QQ?
    yes
    and don't open-limp
    and what sarbox and spoonit said
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    Raising low/med PPs EP is a leak. Limping these may be a leak as well, but I haven't enough of a database to figure that yet.

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