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i never had so much trouble with these overpair hands OOP

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  1. #1

    Default i never had so much trouble with these overpair hands OOP

    hand 1: villain was 19.1/8.4/1.4 flop AF over 158 hands. i didn't think i should really felt my QQ here, any thoughts?

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (9 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    MP1 ($190)
    MP2 ($89.40)
    Hero ($206.80)
    CO ($258.70)
    Button ($311.55)
    SB ($72.65)
    BB ($296.30)
    UTG ($44.80)
    UTG+1 ($100.20)

    Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q, Q.
    1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $4, 2 folds, Hero raises to $20, CO calls $20, 3 folds, UTG+1 calls $16.

    Flop: ($63) 5, 9, 8 (3 players)
    UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $35, CO raises to $80, UTG+1 folds, Hero ?.

    hand 2: villain was 18.3/7.8/2.4 flop AF over 420 hands and i didn't see him 3 bet a lot at this table, probable KK+ range??

    $1/$2 No Limit Holdem
    9 players
    Converted at weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    Hero ($357.85)
    UTG+1 ($366.40)
    MP1 ($194.65)
    MP2 ($593.75)
    MP3 ($200.00)
    CO ($200.00)
    BTN ($202.00)
    SB ($876.30)
    BB ($331.00)

    Pre-flop: ($3, 9 players) Hero is UTG
    Hero raises to $8, 4 folds, CO raises to $22, 3 folds, Hero calls $14

    Flop: ($47, 2 players)
    Hero checks, CO bets $26, Hero calls $26

    Turn: ($99, 2 players)
    Hero checks, CO bets $55
    hero??

    hand 3: villain is BankItDrew(19/8.2/2.3 over 452 hands) , a huge FTR donk , should i give much credit for his shove or just commit myself given that i already put 1/3 of my starting stack in the pot?
    $1/$2 No Limit Holdem
    9 players
    Converted at weaktight.com

    Stacks:
    UTG ($193.80)
    UTG+1 ($200.00)
    MP1 ($192.40)
    MP2 ($200.00)
    MP3 ($197.00)
    CO ($63.80)
    BTN ($127.85)
    Hero ($215.30)
    BB ($136.55)

    Pre-flop: ($3, 9 players) Hero is SB
    3 folds, MP2 raises to $8, MP3 calls $8, 2 folds, Hero raises to $36, 1 fold, MP2 folds, MP3 calls $28

    Flop: ($82, 2 players)
    Hero bets $50, MP3 raises to $150, Hero ?
  2. #2
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    1. the cold call preflop from a player with those stats is probably something like TT+ AK and I don't see him suddenly turning JJ into a bluff here so I fold. I love it when tight players cold call a 3-bet, their ranges are normally super small and it's pretty easy to play postflop. His preflop range may be slightly wider because the initial raiser minraised, but I think this is exactly KK a lot, and maybe 88/99 if you think he calls with those preflop. I can't see QQ ever being good here.

    2. I usually c/c flop, c/f turn in these spots but never feel great about it. I think it's best here though, c/f flop just feels too weak and anything else is overplaying.

    3.
    Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

    15,840 games 0.151 secs 104,900 games/sec

    Board: 9d Qh Th
    Dead:

    equity win tie pots won pots tied
    Hand 0: 42.547% 42.22% 00.33% 6688 51.50 { KcKd }
    Hand 1: 57.453% 57.13% 00.33% 9049 51.50 { QQ-99, AhKh }

    I'm surprised to see us with that much equity actually, looks like you can't fold. Even taking out half of the JJ combinations you still have 35% equity.
  3. #3
    yeah, i agree that i have to call the shove in hand 3.

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