5/10 HU versus laggro

[IowaSkinsFan]

Don't have the HH unfortunately but Opp is a pretty laggro reg. Not incredibly tricky and tends to take pretty standard lines with his super strong hands, and then super strong lines with his bluffs. I have been pretty reasonable and he has been trying to win every pot. 200bb deep. He could get somewhat tricky, but im not expecting it. He's been checking behind like A high and non c/r standing shit.

I have 65s spades OOP, he raises $40 preflop which is his standard and I call.

Flop comes J43 giving me a Straight flush draw. check check.

Turn is an Ace no spade. I bet 70, he calls after some deliberationg.

So pot is $250. River is an 8, no spade. I bet $175 (prob not good), he raises to $375 in a reasonable amount of time, I think for a bit and then shove for about $2k. So like $1600 for him to call.

Thoughts?

[The Odds God]

You are officially insane.

[The Odds God]

I like it. He probably doesn't have a monster and he has to fold everything. I can't see what he can call you with. Nice play.

[Ash256]

Why didn't you make it like 8-900 considering how polarised his range is? (also tell me if what im saying is wrong)

[The Odds God]

Why didn't you make it like 8-900 considering how polarised his range is? (also tell me if what im saying is wrong)

He has to push him off two pair, like 48, that's why he overbets all in.

[The Odds God]

His range is 48s, 38s, 88 or a bluff, maybe A8 some %, but I think he raises turn a large % with A8 . Anything else in his range? You only get snapcalled by 88, everything else he folds, I think, but you have to overbet it. A normal raise doesn't accomplish that.

[IowaSkinsFan]

idk im hoping he folds a really good hand as well and not only bluffs and the only way he does that is if I put my whole stack in.

[Ash256]

His range is 48s, 38s, 88 or a bluff, maybe A8 some %, but I think he raises turn a large % with A8 . Anything else in his range? You only get snapcalled by 88, everything else he folds, I think, but you have to overbet it. A normal raise doesn't accomplish that.

Wouldn't he bet the flop w/ 48 and 38?

[IowaSkinsFan]

His range is 48s, 38s, 88 or a bluff, maybe A8 some %, but I think he raises turn a large % with A8 . Anything else in his range? You only get snapcalled by 88, everything else he folds, I think, but you have to overbet it. A normal raise doesn't accomplish that.

Wouldn't he bet the flop w/ 48 and 38?

It's a pretty solid check it back there with those hands, i'd probably check it back more than i cbet versus a habitual c/r.

[sauce123]

ur mistake is not c/ring 4x on the turn and potting any river sir

[Numbr2intheWorld]

Idk whats your image history with flop leads, and i know he's usually cont betting this flop. But your hand will play out much better if you lead the flop.

[IowaSkinsFan]

last two posts are a cop out imo but i agree with Ben and dont disagree with max.

[sauce123]

i think he folds his entire range except for 88 and 52ss and hes much more likely to have 888 than 52ss obv.

so if hes capable of making somewhat big folds and with ur history i think this is fine.

i did the math and this is most likely good against any reasonable calling range.

[sauce123]

maaan this is actually very close if he calls with A8 which i think he does

[IowaSkinsFan]

At the time I thought he'd fold A8 but who knows, he may convince himself to do it thinking I could have A3/A4 or something like that. I'm not sure I can put the 100% number in front of A8 folding, but something like 40-50% seems reasonable right?

[Numbr2intheWorld]

I think your assessment is pretty good danny.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Yay so I actually made a semi decent huge bluff?

[Renton]

i don't like it and i'd have c/r the turn.

I think he knows how weird his raise looks and is probably going to call with a lot of the range that he's raising for value.

I mean i realize that the whole point of this is that you can have most of the nut hands on this board and he can only have 88.

But i think with these stacks you'd very often be leading the flop with hands you really really like, and you'd probably check raise this river with a set.

idk

[ilikeaces86]

I would snap call A8 here and so would most regs IMO.

[sauce123]

aces- even if villain snap calls A8 100% its still marginally good.

also i think its relevant that danny is taking a shot here and a hyper-aggro reg will probably know it which makes this play marginally good imo.

it helps soooo much if u know how he thinks here tho

[sauce123]

also with ur image u should be making it 1375 probably after timing down like 8 seconds

[Lukie]

so we are trying to make a heads up player fold A8 on a J34A8 board when lots of flush/straight draws missed.

i don't get it, what's the punchline?

[Lukie]

not sure if it's good or bad fwiw, i just wouldnt count on anyone folding a8 on this river and almost surely wouldn't myself

[pocketfours]

I don't see how 3-bet shoving this river for VALUE with anything less than A8 can be profitable so the hand is a bluff catcher and just as good as QQ.

I only think this shove is even close to reasonable if you have been calling with small pp:s oop most of the time. With these stacks against lag I reraise all pairs almost 100% of the time myself, so a set is not in my range and villain must call with A8 (which means he looses against my nut straight every time, since it is the ONLY hand in my range).

[Renton]

p4's, not being able to have sets/overpairs in single raised pots oop has to be doing awful things for your range.

[pocketfours]

p4's, not being able to have sets/overpairs in single raised pots oop has to be doing awful things for your range.

It doesn't matter since 200BB deep I'm usually in raise/fold mode oop anyway. I only call now and then to throw off my opponent. Against certain types of players I do change my style and I will also adjust if the situation calls for it.