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  1. #1
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    Default 109s = JJ

    ok, so I usually don't call 3bets with this hand, but i figured wth i'm in position

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    Hero ($164.55)
    Button ($22.25)
    SB ($118.50)
    BB ($66.05)
    UTG ($121.80)
    MP ($137.50)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with T, 9.
    2 folds, Hero raises to $4, 1 fold, SB raises to $14, 1 fold, Hero calls $10.

    Flop: ($29) 6, 2, 5 (2 players)
    SB bets $15, Hero calls $15.

    Turn: ($59) 6 (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $32


    ok, so i've noticed a lot of people 3bet AK pf, bet flop, and check turn if they whiff

    so on the turn plan is:

    if they check I can bet even if i whiff, they probably missed if no AKQ falls. of course the spade basically gives me the nuts. and most ppl think u have a pp in this spot if u flat call flop like that. i'm sure at some stage ppl double barrell ak std but not at 100nl.

    sooo what do you think of my plan, EV- or EV+

    now on betsizing, the same person who folds I don't think calls or bluffshoves, 95% at least. I think the guy who raises there checked to shove over me. I know at higher stakes id need a much larger bet.
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    If you assume villain will fold his missed overs as often to a flop raise as to a missed turn, I like raising flop more.

    With your turn betsizing raising flop is a bit more expensive, but he will never hit is 4 clean outs with overs, where you likely have to fold you hand to his turn bet.

    Most important factors are imo:
    - How often is villain bluffing the turn.
    - How much money you are willing to put in on the turn without hitting your spade (are you calling a bet when a T or 9 hits?)

    Of course if villain has AK and the As or Ks falls you've got his stack, that's a plus. But As/Ks also scares of QQ-.

    If villain is able to shove his AK sometimes to your T9s flop raise you make money as well.

    So all in all I like raising flop a bit more. But this is a good line as well and definately +EV against the type of villain you discribed.
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    this works, but with the FD especially i like a flop raise more. Its esentially the same price (if you raise his $15 bet to $45), and you could even make it like $40 and get it a bit cheaper. Plus if he jams you are getting a good enough price to call with the FD if you assume he has an overpair at that point and all your FD outs are good.
    eeevees are not monies yet...they are like baby monies.

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