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  1. #1
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    Default Am I being a pussy?

    Opp is loose/passive ish.

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    Button ($82.95)
    SB ($10.80)
    Hero ($22.20)
    UTG ($9.20)
    MP1 ($13.45)
    MP2 ($8.30)
    CO ($17.40)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with K, A. UTG posts a blind of $0.25.
    UTG (poster) checks, MP1 calls $0.25, 3 folds, SB completes, Hero raises to $1, UTG folds, MP1 calls $0.75, SB folds.

    Flop: ($2.50) A, 4, 7 (2 players)
    Hero bets $2, MP1 calls $2.

    Turn: ($6.50) J (2 players)
    Hero bets $5, MP1 calls $5.

    River: ($16.50) 4 (2 players)
    Hero checks, MP1 checks.

    Final Pot: $16.50
  2. #2
    probably put him all-in on the river
  3. #3

    Default Re: Am I being a pussy?

    Quote Originally Posted by dwarfman
    Opp is loose/passive ish.
    (edit) Shove the river because he's only 50bb deep. You're not going to induce a bluff out of him very often so check/call loses a lot of value.
  4. #4
    Raise more preflop vs. three limpers. I would raise to $1.50 there. No way we can b/f this river against this size stack imo. Just shove, AQ is well within his range and will call given your read. Were you going to fold if he bet? If not then the check is even worse.
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  5. #5
    LoL, AT and A9 are in his range too!

    Didn't see how shallow the money is. You need to just felt this and plan the hand accordingly.

    I would raise more pre-flop to set-up a heads-up pot with a lower SPR to make being OOP less painful. $1.50 is good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fnord
    LoL, AT and A9 are in his range too!

    Didn't see how shallow the money is. You need to just felt this and plan the hand accordingly.

    I would raise more pre-flop to set-up a heads-up pot with a lower SPR to make being OOP less painful. $1.50 is good.
    seconded. this hand was way too passive, if you hadnt decided to play for stacks aftre the flop action (baring another club falling) then we played it in the wrong mindset IMO
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    He's only got $5.45 left on the river, get him in. A loose passive is looking you up with any ace guaranteed.
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    Cheers for the input gents. For the record he had AJ for two pair, just 'cause I run bad. But his range is extensive enough to make pushing the river very +EV. I was just being a woman
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    Since you aren't American, why aren't you playing somewhere that the 200NL play is this bad?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dwarfman
    Cheers for the input gents. For the record he had AJ for two pair, just 'cause I run bad. But his range is extensive enough to make pushing the river very +EV. I was just being a woman
    Heh...loose passives crack me up. Too scared to bet the river with top two cause of the flushy flop and the river pair...as if that river changed anything

    They're scared to bet that river, but you know they'd be calling it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fnord
    Since you aren't American, why aren't you playing somewhere that the 200NL play is this bad?
    OMG WTF are you serious that such places exist?

    *feels canadian drool pouring out of mouth*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fnord
    Since you aren't American, why aren't you playing somewhere that the 200NL play is this bad?
    Because I am attracted to PokerStars. In a sexual way.

    Fwiw though I'm probably going to do a shit load of bonus whoring in May at fishy non-US sites.
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    Quote Originally Posted by d0zer
    Quote Originally Posted by Fnord
    Since you aren't American, why aren't you playing somewhere that the 200NL play is this bad?
    OMG WTF are you serious that such places exist?

    *feels canadian drool pouring out of mouth*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miffed22001
    miff dreams of ongame
    Hrmm...maybe I won't go back to stars when I'm done bonus whoring...
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    Quote Originally Posted by d0zer
    Quote Originally Posted by dwarfman
    Cheers for the input gents. For the record he had AJ for two pair, just 'cause I run bad. But his range is extensive enough to make pushing the river very +EV. I was just being a woman
    Heh...loose passives crack me up. Too scared to bet the river with top two cause of the flushy flop and the river pair...as if that river changed anything

    They're scared to bet that river, but you know they'd be calling it.
    I love it when they check sets behind here.... in a limit game...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fnord
    I love it when they check sets behind here.... in a limit game...



    Is it true that in yer typical B&M game fulla loose passives that everyone shuts down on 3-flush boards? Like...folding top set kinda shutdown when the 3rd flush card comes?

    On boards like this I never worry about the flush & assume anyone betting hard is betting the draw. Might be a leak cause I certainly get burned enough when they actually flop the flush. Huge multi-ways I'm more cautious...
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    I see terrible laydowns from time to time. But I see a lot more missed value, aggressive calling and commitment to seeing a flop at nearly absurd prices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fnord
    I see terrible laydowns from time to time. But I see a lot more missed value, aggressive calling and commitment to seeing a flop at nearly absurd prices.
    Makes sense. Textbook loose passive that you see online as well.

    I was playing a home game the other day and this loose passive limped aces, & checked it down on a A33 flop & threw out a minbet on the river. I saw the same thing at 50NL only it was top set instead of top boat, and he didn't throw the bet on the river & won a $2.40 pot.

    That kinda stuff cracks me up to no end
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miffed22001
    Quote Originally Posted by d0zer
    Quote Originally Posted by Fnord
    Since you aren't American, why aren't you playing somewhere that the 200NL play is this bad?
    OMG WTF are you serious that such places exist?

    *feels canadian drool pouring out of mouth*
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