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    Default overbet much? compilation...

    Villain is a donk running 48/26
    I have an aggro image.
    I recently just caught him bluffing in a limped pot.
    He got his stack by sucking out on a shortish stack in a 3 bet pot he called the guys all in with AK (no pair) and spiked a king on river. In that hand he called the 3 bet with AK.

    Edit{he might think I'm a bit of an idiot as I recently stacked a shortie by getting it all in on the flop with overs+nfd and he asked me if i was the favorit in the hand (the shortie had 1 pr), I said I didn't know I just really liked making flushes. }

    What kinda range do you think he does this with?

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (5 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    MP ($52.30)
    Button ($39.20)
    SB ($205.15)
    BB ($317.20)
    Hero ($279.75)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q, Q.
    Hero raises to $8, 3 folds, BB raises to $317.2, Hero?
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    and do you call?
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    he always has AA, fold ldo
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    Snap it off
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    Quote Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan
    he always has AA, fold ldo
    hm.. you sure about this?

    I had similar happen to me twice today (though closer to 100bbs) and it was hands like 88, and TT and stuff. I stacked off both times with AKs... yesss.

    I mean its possible this is AA (esp since you're UTG), but I think the range is a lot wider than that.
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    i probably call
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    I call QQ+ AKos+ and JJ if I am stuck.
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    6 handed to 1 raise, qq is the nuts. if there were multiple raises, that's when i start to consider my hand isnt good, theres just not enough information to fold lol.
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    I fold and look for spots where I can actually play poker.
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    Anyone who says fold doesnt like money btw
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    Quote Originally Posted by IowaSkinsFan
    he always has AA, fold ldo
    are you super serial?
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    isfs first post was a level, the other was not
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    So I snap called and he had AA ldo lol. Just wanted to make sure I didn't get results oriented.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy
    isfs first post was a level, the other was not
    my post was a level as well.
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    as was mine
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    heres another vs a different donk with similar stats:

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    Button ($200)
    SB ($322.90)
    BB ($72.45)
    UTG ($134)
    MP ($32)
    Hero ($528.10)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with 9, 8.
    UTG calls $2, MP calls $2, Hero raises to $12, 2 folds, BB calls $10, UTG folds, MP folds.

    Flop: ($29) 3, 7, 2 (2 players)
    BB bets $60.45 (All-In), Hero?
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    fold for sure
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    Quote Originally Posted by wufwugy
    as was mine
    damn ur good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by meeloche
    heres another vs a different donk with similar stats:

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

    Button ($200)
    SB ($322.90)
    BB ($72.45)
    UTG ($134)
    MP ($32)
    Hero ($528.10)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with 9, 8.
    UTG calls $2, MP calls $2, Hero raises to $12, 2 folds, BB calls $10, UTG folds, MP folds.

    Flop: ($29) 3, 7, 2 (2 players)
    BB bets $60.45 (All-In), Hero?
    unfortunately you have nowhere near the pot odds to justify a call.
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    Going back to the QQ hand if I may. I was not joking when I said fold. Maybe I play with too many donks at Ongame but I still believe that this is still a fold albeit a tight one.

    The second one is a clear fold to me.
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    Don't know about first one but second one is def. a fold as others stated.
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    id definitely call the 2nd one.....overcards good here often enough i think
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabe
    id definitely call the 2nd one.....overcards good here often enough i think
    Yeah i was thinking the same, but on the other hand if villain has better flushdraw were are in really bad shape
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    yea but fish dont really open shove flush draws
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    Quote Originally Posted by gabe
    yea but fish dont really open shove flush draws
    Yes they do. Alllllllllll the time. It's usually something like K7o but I wouldn't be surprised in the least if he shows me a flush draw. And I'm a tourney donk so I think I have a firm grasp on how fish play.

    After looking at Stove for awhile though, I agree call. You're 53/47 vs a pair and 20/80 vs a better flush draw and you need 40/60 to call. If you think he has a pair twice as often then you should call. And I think he does, easily. You guys don't gamble enough with short stacks.
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    Mcatdog pretty much summed up what I was thinking about the hand. I called and he had 75 so the read was correct. Short stacks run so good against me I just wanted to double check that I'm not spewing too much.

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