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    Default Facing a LP Continuation Bet in LP

    Assume 100bb stacks.

    Folds to 15/12 villain with 65% cbet in CO who opens to 4xbb. We call on the button, and the blinds fold.

    The pot is 9.5bb and the flop comes K 9 5. Villain bets 7bb.

    1. What is our range?
    2. What part of our range do we call/raise with?
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    For me you miss the attent to steal BB %
    Let's assume 40%:

    1. 22-99, 67s-JTs (higher I raise)
    2. 55/99,67s-JTs
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmy44
    For me you miss the attent to steal BB %
    Let's assume 40%:

    1. 22-99, 67s-JTs (higher I raise)
    2. 55/99,67s-JTs
    So you raise with J T ?

    If yes, then why raise instead of float?
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    If I am playing against this villian I am likely 3betting pf not calling. If I am calling, it is a low pocket pair to hit a set or suited connectors. If I didn't hit this flop, I let it go. If I hit a set or draw, I raise the flop.

    You could try to float with a read, but since I raise a wide range here, the aggression helps to hide my hand. I don't like to float these villians too much because they are very aggro and usually regulars; they are more willing to 2 barrel bet/fold a wide range of hands before they will give up and check fold the turn.
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    id say our opponent is something like 16/12 pre so id repop at least half of that range preflop.
    The rest id c/r the turn if i like my hand lots otherwise id call and donk turn with the rest and muck any crap on the flop.
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    calling range: 22-TT, I'm 3-betting a fair bit vs this villain preflop.

    I don't float much, and will usually fold to a c-bet when I miss. Occasionally with this villain I'll bluff when I miss my sethunting and raise his c-bet up with my heart in my throat. I'd generally like his c-bet% to be higher than 65% though for that though.
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    1. 22-99, ATs-A8s, KJ, KTs, QJs-76s, QTs-J9s
    2a - call: 66-JJ, AdTd-Ad8d, QdJd-7d6d, QdTd-Jd9d, KJ, KTs
    2b - raise: 55, 99

    Hmm, that seems awfully transparent. I should probably add QdJd, JdTd, 8d7d, 7d6d and QdTd to the raising range. I don't think any of my KJ-KT options are strong enough for a raise. It all seems terribly weak. I think I'm failing this one.

    I have a feeling my ranges are off here, but I don't know what they should be.
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    We have to float a high % the time to make a preflop call with 22-55 profitable
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    XTR are you saying that because of his position (late) and presumably a wider raising range and that he has a smaller felting range. A lot of which is cbetting air?
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    Quote Originally Posted by spoonitnow
    Quote Originally Posted by jimmy44
    For me you miss the attent to steal BB %
    Let's assume 40%:

    1. 22-99, 67s-JTs (higher I raise)
    2. 55/99,67s-JTs
    So you raise with J T ?

    If yes, then why raise instead of float?
    Actually, I mean I raise QJs+
    I call with JTs.
    I raise with QJs+ to balance my 3bets with KK/AA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuddyWicket
    XTR are you saying that because of his position (late) and presumably a wider raising range and that he has a smaller felting range. A lot of which is cbetting air?
    Right on the money. His possible felting range is actually not smaller, but potential felting hands make a much smaller % of his openeing range, what makes calling for setvalue unprofitable. OTOH, if he´s uncomfortable with playing OOP or folds tight on turn we may float 22-55 into the green
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    that's food for thought. There are a lot of small to mid sized pots that could be won here, either at showdown when they miss or by taking advantage of weakness. I must admit the majority of my late position raises aren't looking for the pot to get big in at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miffed22001
    id say our opponent is something like 16/12 pre so id repop at least half of that range preflop.
    The rest id c/r the turn if i like my hand lots otherwise id call and donk turn with the rest and muck any crap on the flop.
    .... I just said villain is 15/12....
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    call most pps Kx 9x, raise bluffs and bottom pair and draws and sets.

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