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 Originally Posted by sweetlemon69
 Originally Posted by Marshall28
 Originally Posted by JL
You might be c-betting too much. Your Flop AF looks high.
Loose players will call the flop super light, so c-betting too often against these players is a huge leak.
Try checking the flop with hands that have good showdown value.
this is pretty good advice, id just add that u should be thinking each time u go to bet the flop, the questions you should ask yourself are "will he fold any better hands?" and "will he call any worse hands?" obviously if he will fold better hands u should bluff, and if he will call worse hands u should value bet.
So just to elaborate on these two excellent posts;
Showdown value meaning, like, If I have AK, and I wiff a flop vs an extremely loose player, feel free to check it down as the loose V is calling with ATC that AK is ahead a huge amount of time?
And when thinking about betting, 'calling with worse', are we looking for a "calls flop a high % of the time" + very loose preflop?
And about "will he fold better hands", are we looking for a tight player who's calling range is pretty narrow prelfop + we've wiffed the flop on a safe board + his "folds to flop bet/cbet % is high'? A board like 23Q rainbow, a cbet there? But a board like 9QJ two-tone, check it?
u r thinking too much dude. i dont even look at these stats when im making the decision as to whether or not i should c-bet. the only stats i really care about are his vpip and pfr. reason is, generally a player with a very high vpip and low pfr is going to have to be calling a lot more on the flop and turn in order to get to showdown... hes playing so many hands that he is thinking "if theres any way i can win the pot i should call" ... so he does with gutshots, overcards, 1 over + gutshot ... bottom pair ... all sorts of random stuff like that.
if the player is tight preflop, he probly has some semblance of an idea as to what hes doing ... when he calls its usually gonna be with a small pair looking to hit a set, or two big cards ... after the flop u can generally put them on a much narrower range of hands and it's much easier to play.
lastly ... the msot important thing to remember in these situations is what the guy did last time and what he has shown down ... did he call 2 bets out of position with a draw and check the river after he missed? that's real important, or did he call down 2 bets with top pair good kicker and show that down? think about how u would want to bet in the future against each of those types of players, and thats how to play poker.
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