Two 3 street calldowns

[Irisheyes]

Hand 1)
Seems TAGGY, on a few tables. Only 70 hands so far but coming out to be 26/23/10. Not many of the regs at my level are capable of betting JJ on this river and I think I'd know the ones that were.

$2/$4 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($732.90)
CO ($337.50)
BTN ($400.00)
SB ($500.30)
Hero ($541.00)

Pre-flop: ($6, 5 players) Hero is BB
3 folds, SB raises to $14, Hero calls $10

Flop: ($28, 2 players)
SB bets $22, Hero calls $22

Turn: ($72, 2 players)
SB bets $52, Hero calls $52

River: ($176, 2 players)
SB bets $100, Hero calls $100


Hand 2)
29/24/4.8 cbets 76% steals from SB 34%, cbet 76%, turn agg freq: 55% Possibly wants to win pots from me cos I bad beat him pretty hilariously earlier and we chatted it up for a while going back and forth. FWIW he tried to teach me about ranges in the chat and I played dumb.

$2/$4 No Limit Holdem
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG ($398.50)
CO ($589.95)
BTN ($397.00)
SB ($485.50)
Hero ($398.00)

Pre-flop: ($6, 5 players) Hero is BB
3 folds, SB raises to $12, Hero calls $8

Flop: ($24, 2 players)
SB bets $20, Hero calls $20

Turn: ($64, 2 players)
SB bets $51, Hero calls $51

River: ($166, 2 players)
SB bets $133, Hero calls $133

[dalecooper]

Hand 2 seems totally fine to me, verging on standard given the history. His bet sizing whispers "I really wish you'd learn to fold, you STUPID DONK!" Slim chance he shows up with a straight or boat there (unless it's 88) and I doubt he's value-betting anything else on that river.

Hand 1 is a little ballsy but with his aggression being so high it's not awful. It's pretty thin though. I'd probably just give up on that one. To be honest I'd probably just give that up pre-flop - 76o is a pretty weak hand to passively defend with.

[Marshall28]

on the 1st hand, i can't imagine a 2/4 reg wouldn't be able to value bet JJ/Tx even 99 or 88 here. Given that info, a good reg would be bluffing this river a grip also. your hand is just so face up. also, he should know that the K is a terrible double barrel card... only reason i would ever call down here is if i thought he was tilting and just trying to win a pot vs me.

another thing to think of is you could raise the flop w/ 67. He's probly c-betting this flop w/ his whole range, so a raise is probably profitable and makes the rest of the hand easier to play (he probably turns more passive if he calls). if you nail a 6 or 7 on the turn, he will never put you on it and give you a good chance to get paid. and last, you aren't forced into a position where you have to guess like you did on this river.

2nd hand ... looks like 67 to me. i dunno, you only really beat a pure bluff .... a missed 23 or missed hearts. i guess it's not that bad if you want to gain a psychological edge over him and own his soul here. chances are if you do, you get a lot more of his money, it just depends on how bluff-happy he is.

[Irisheyes]

another thing to think of is you could raise the flop w/ 67. He's probly c-betting this flop w/ his whole range, so a raise is probably profitable and makes the rest of the hand easier to play (he probably turns more passive if he calls).

Disagree with this. Given your description of a villain, I'm a) getting rebluffed a high % of the time and b) only getting called by a better hand. I'm not raising this flop unless I'm shoving over a 3bet and while thats an option I need a better read before I do that.