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I feel your pain Mr. Hellmuth

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  1. #1

    Default I feel your pain Mr. Hellmuth

    I can't think of another time I even considered folding QQ preflop.
    Standard?

    -MP2 is 17/9/2.2 w/ 3bet% of 4, over ~150 hands and pretty competent and UTG+1 is just and uber donk somewhere around 65/5

    - I was even nervous just to call behind thinking UTG+1 might go apeshit and shove causing a cascading effect and making me fold if MP2 isolate shoves
    - Coming over the top just seemed donkish since MP2 is repping a narrow range

    Should I be playing this purely for set value and fold if no Q comes?

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    BB ($4.70)
    UTG ($64.20)
    UTG+1 ($10)
    MP1 ($103.45)
    MP2 ($76.20)
    Hero (CO) ($59.05)
    Button ($8.05)
    SB ($14.75)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with Q, Q
    1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $1.50, 1 fold, MP2 raises to $3, Hero calls $3, 2 folds, BB calls $2.50, UTG+1 calls $1.50

    Flop: ($12.25) 9, 8, 3 (4 players)
    BB checks, UTG+1 bets $0.50, MP2 raises to $7 HERO WANTS TO SHIT A BRICK
  2. #2
    is folding QQ preflop really an option here ? I would definitely have called also preflop, not raised.

    but MP2 raising on this flop following a preflop raise might indicate 3 possible hands :

    flush draw
    starting suited connectors like JQ or JT
    pocket pair

    I'd definitely bet on MP2 having pocket T/pocket J...
  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by mcoquet
    is folding QQ preflop really an option here ?
    No, but it definately crossed my mind

    I dont think he's 3-betting 10J and QJ especially from MP

    I thought more along the lines of 88+ and AQs+

    If it was a flush draw in that range then 10's and J's is the only thing I have decent equity against
  4. #4
    Played fine, now fold.
    "This sure beats Super Mario Bros.!" is my ejaculation catch phrase.

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