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    so, im in my third semester at university studying business. I don't like my classes, i find it painful to read the material. I don't put forth enough effort to do well. I just squeak by. Last semester I dropped managerial accounting, and I just bombed the first 50% midterm pretty badly. Dropping or failing a course 3 times gets you kicked out of the program, no questions asked. Same with finance. ITs my first time taking it, midterm is thrusday, but i have another midterm tommorow, so really my studying won't be done until the night before.

    and im sure i won't get much done. I will probably get this sick feeling in my stomach. Regret being such a lazy student. Wonder why im even in this fucking program. Hating life right now. I've got menail work experience, I don't even know what id want to do if i graduated with this degree.

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    sounds pretty familiar....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reidak
    so, im in my third semester at university studying business. I don't like my classes, i find it painful to read the material. I don't put forth enough effort to do well. I just squeak by. Last semester I dropped managerial accounting, and I just bombed the first 50% midterm pretty badly. Dropping or failing a course 3 times gets you kicked out of the program, no questions asked. Same with finance. ITs my first time taking it, midterm is thrusday, but i have another midterm tommorow, so really my studying won't be done until the night before.

    and im sure i won't get much done. I will probably get this sick feeling in my stomach. Regret being such a lazy student. Wonder why im even in this fucking program. Hating life right now. I've got menail work experience, I don't even know what id want to do if i graduated with this degree.

    -reidak
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    the only person that's responsible for motivating yourself is you.

    That having been said, do what you wanna do, and if you can't get interested in the classes, consider a switch to something you love.

    If I had it to do all over again, I'd take anthropology classes.
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    i dont know man
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    and im not passionate about much. im just a depressed sack of shit right now. i think if i get my depression/anxiety issues confronted, i might have a shot at doing something with my life. Im so fucked lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reidak
    and im not passionate about much. im just a depressed sack of shit right now. i think if i get my depression/anxiety issues confronted, i might have a shot at doing something with my life. Im so fucked lol.
    i know what you mean, and the answer is money. make money and you will be happy. if you already have money, well then i guess youre fucked.
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    i just have no goals in life, basically. it makes livin hard when you dont see the point in tomorrow
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    quit weed in like gr 11.
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    you mean like prozac or adderall?
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    lol @ will

    take your time and explore different things, people rush way too much in college. If your college is too expensive to take your time, transfer. I knew a guy who dropped out at the end of his 5th year after trying to stick with computer science even though he knew he hated it after about year 2, in the long run taking your time will save you time and make you happy.

    I also knew another guy who was in his 8th year before he finally gave up - 4 years of flunking engineering classes and then 4 years of almost passing with a food service mgmt (lol) degree. in the end it was the 8 years of drinking and whoring that did him in, failed all of his classes last quarter, fiance (in grad school) dumped him, good times.

    PS drugs are actually a good choice for a perspective change although slippery slope yadda
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    You sound like you think other people study sometime other than the night before a midterm. That simply isn't the case...
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    id like to have something I cared about enough to strive for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reidak
    you mean like prozac or adderall?
    Sup?

    I would talk your advisor's see if they can set you on a better track to something you could care more about. And shit if you are mopey all the time talk to a shrink try to figure out whats up.

    I was in the same situation doing bad in school and no direction. I still am not sure what I want to do with my life and with a few or two semester left till I graduate is a BS in Biology is kind of scary, but now I am doing a ton better in all my classes and getting my GPA up I feel better about not knowing.

    At this point I think I might do something like Teach for America (teach in an impoverished area for 2 years) and then see if I want to be a teacher. If not maybe apply for grad schools then.
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    id like to have something I cared about enough to strive for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shazbox
    You sound like you think other people study sometime other than the night before a midterm. That simply isn't the case...
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    its hard to cram for a finance midterm.
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    i think business is too singular, too competitive. I think the business world will keep growing more and more competitve and even if i could keep up now, could i keep up in the real world?

    im, in general, a fairly lazy dude. However, I do tend to like to work with my hands. I find when I can make something that I can take pride in, i am happiest..

    I think in my first semester, when i shipped like $18,000 into my bank or something.. I wasn't really happy. If 18k at 18 years old doesn't get me all excited, then why would i ever get into business...

    i think my biggest fear would be disappointing my family. They know im kind of lazy, and I think they just hope for the best for me.
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    well, pretty much every one in a standard office is pathetic and lazy, don't let that stop you. But that's because they all hate their jobs. Even people who start off working hard tend to stop because no one else is. If you want to work hard, work in small companies and plan on starting your own business.

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    I torture myself so much. Im going to talk to my doctor.
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    I was in that exact same spot in college.

    I was a degen perv, who spent more time in his dorm room fapping than actually socializing. It's a pretty vicious cycle, where you commit yourself to your dorm, then no-one invites you to parties because you're always in your dorm, so you spend more time in your dorm looking at porn and wondering why no-one will invite you to parties.

    Step one. Get out there, and you're at a college, take advantage of that big swimming pool that you're paying for, get to the gym, and play some racquetball for gods sake. Get a few buddies to work out with you. Nothing better than working out for a depression

    Step 2. Spend time in the common areas of your dorm. Talk to people, joke around and just don't spend any time in your room. You're probably grinding some poker hours away... so try to adjust your poker grind hours in such a way that you can also get some socialization.

    step 3, talk to your advisor and let him/her know. TBH I always got stuck at the same mental road block you did. I don't want to work for the rest of my life. I want to play. Also, the more money you make, the more you can play. The balance is, if you know you won't be happy at all working, find something that you at least will hate the least, and will earn you enough money, with enough flexibility to really enjoy the time you aren't working.

    that's how I got out of my funk.
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    I commute to school, but im also a really antisocial person. At parties I will get social anxiety. I panic. I have no problem meeting girls, though. I project my confidence well because i'm a good looking guy.. but i alienate people i think. They invite me out and im like oh, no thanks; because im fucking scared shitless about the unknown. I'd probably be fine. There is no reason that anything bad would happen, i just worry it would and i embarass myself, so i scrap the whole idea altogehter

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    oh, I just get really self aware. Thats the issue. I think people are always saying things about me. Really.. its all in my head. But if afflicts me and then I will sometimes just look outwardly upset or uncomfortable
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    Jesus Reidak... are you just me like 7 years ago or what?
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    I wouldn't know man. I'm guessing I am.

    if you have, how did you get things 'right'
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    With the ways I posted.

    Working out really got me goin... I'm kinda in a funk again, and it's my knee jerk reaction.

    I didn't finish college either tho. I just got myself right because I found a job I love, and when I stopped loving the job I moved on, and landed in another one I love.

    If I can figgure out poker, it'll be nothing but honies and monies
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    im happy for you man. its hard to figure out what makes myself happy. Things might, for a little bit, but then ill just get thrown back into being depressed if i leave my mind to its own wanderings.
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    Take my advice and DON'T drop out to get a job. Pretty much everyone in my office apart from the directors leads a soul-destroying husk of a life.
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    If you drop out get into a trade of some sort. Like wood work, then when you make something you'll be all "sweet". Then in 2 years when you realize you're fucking sick of working worry about going back to school.

    As for the anxiety try alcohol, aka, "Liquid courage".

    (The following does not apply to most people)
    Also, work on turning off the inner monologue. If you're constantly analyzing things all the time, like you said it'll drive you insane. Not sure how I learned to do that but if I get on the 3rd level or so thinking about a situation I just give up. Being lazy helps

    If you're out in a group pick someone that you think is doing a good job being social and try to pickup on what they're doing. You'll start to realize people don't really care about much, especially when alcohol is involved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by swiggidy
    You'll start to realize people don't really care about much, especially when alcohol is involved.
    This ^^... and force yourself into uncomfortable situations. It's like the first time you get punched in the face, you're like "fff-----ckkk....!". Second and third time it's more like "sh!!t!". Past that, you're too busy beating the dude's ass to worry too much about it.

    Point is the unfamiliar is 10x scarier only 'cause it is. Make it familiar, and you'll learn pretty damn quick that everybody is pretty insecure, f-d up, worried about what other people are thinking of them, etc. It's mostly window dressing baby... and you get real with that and it's a lot easier to not give a sh!t what other insanely insecure people think.

    In most crowds 10% of the people gonna have they sh!t together way better than you, 70% gonna be right in your boat witchu and the other 20% is more f-d up beyond belief. Dive in and act accordingly.
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    its just too much for my mind to handle right now. im having problems coping with this. I feel useless
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    If you still breathin and moving, you ain't useless...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reidak
    its just too much for my mind to handle right now. im having problems coping with this. I feel useless
    Do you want advice or do you want emo sympathy?

    This is simple, pick one:
    a) Do something to start changing the way you act since you don't like it
    b) Go to a doctor and get happy pills
    c) Go to a drug dealer and get happy pills
    d) Cut yourself to remind yourself you're alive. (Just don't do it around the wrists or other major arteries.)
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    Before you miss the point of my post...

    If NOTHING makes you happy then go to a doctor of some sort.

    If you're looking for one thing to make you happy I think you're trying too hard. It almost sounds like you're trying to imagine this happy place where you get a new major and everything is perfect. That's likely not happening.

    I don't particularly care for my life at the moment because there's not much excitement, but there's still stuff that makes me happy. I'll make a list for you in no particular order, maybe you'll agree with a couple.

    Exercising
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    There has to be SOMETHING besides hooking up with girls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swiggidy
    Before you miss the point of my post...

    If NOTHING makes you happy then go to a doctor of some sort.

    If you're looking for one thing to make you happy I think you're trying too hard. It almost sounds like you're trying to imagine this happy place where you get a new major and everything is perfect. That's likely not happening.

    I don't particularly care for my life at the moment because there's not much excitement, but there's still stuff that makes me happy. I'll make a list for you in no particular order, maybe you'll agree with a couple.

    Exercising
    Throwing a frisbee
    Riding my bike somewhere instead of driving
    Alcohol
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    Not watching crap for hours on TV
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    There has to be SOMETHING besides hooking up with girls.
    where the hell was winning lots of money on Pstars and then blowing it all on hookers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ragnar4
    where the hell was winning lots of money on Pstars and then blowing it all on hookers?
    That's on the to do list.
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    I think dropping all worldly posssessions and moving to the netherlands would be a sweet way to get you out of this funk.
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    I have the exact feelings and have had them for years but honestly I think you have to understand A LOT of people are like this. I know we feel like we are alone but sososososo many people are like this. Everyone's fucked up in one way.
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    Stop trying to see the point in tomorrow and just realize you are alive now. The feeling of being aware that you are alive is empowering. Stop trying to find happiness in materials, possessions, or activities. The feeling of joy you receive from them is superficial and will not last. Instead, try find joy from yourself, find joy in your existence.

    I mean c'mon, you could have been a cockroach for gods sake.
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    seriiuolsly, i know exaxctly how u feel reidak.uni sucks and schiool sucks and everything thats not 18 yo girls s does not make us happy. thats the way life goes, deeal with it.
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    xtr is drunk! WUT UP HOLLA ATCHA BOYZZ
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    officially at like.. lowest point of my life right now..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reidak
    officially at like.. lowest point of my life right now..
    do something productive !!!!

    you'll feel better afterwards I guarantee you
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    i feel like ive wasted my entire life from like the age of 12 to now. little job experience, the few friends that i have fucking suck, no girl. i just feel like puking.
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    Go to the doctor asap.
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    he will just give me shit that fucks me up even worse
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    should i be in some sort of counseling?
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    should i be in some sort of counseling?
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    i've got nothing to look forward to. really. life is so fucking pointless right now.
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    im going to talk to my doctor like.. tomorrow maybe. I haven't gotten a physical in years (im 19, last one was like at 14 maybe).

    im going to ask him about seeing someone about my emotional problems. There are alot of things that I obviously need to get cleared up. If my gp wont help, ill ask him to reccomend me to a psychaiatrist. Its free under OHIP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reidak
    im going to talk to my doctor like.. tomorrow maybe. I haven't gotten a physical in years (im 19, last one was like at 14 maybe).

    im going to ask him about seeing someone about my emotional problems. There are alot of things that I obviously need to get cleared up. If my gp wont help, ill ask him to reccomend me to a psychaiatrist. Its free under OHIP.
    good call
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    my whole life.. ive never had anyone who i felt close enough to or comfortable with to discuss or vent my shit to. my stresses or my feelings of constant guilt and worthlessness. I'm just going to throw anything ive been repressing for years at the doc. They should know whats wrong. If anything, itll be good just to have someone to tell this shit to.
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    fuk
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reidak
    I commute to school, but im also a really antisocial person. At parties I will get social anxiety. I panic. I have no problem meeting girls, though. I project my confidence well because i'm a good looking guy.. but i alienate people i think. They invite me out and im like oh, no thanks; because im fucking scared shitless about the unknown. I'd probably be fine. There is no reason that anything bad would happen, i just worry it would and i embarass myself, so i scrap the whole idea altogehter

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    lol spoon you cheer me up
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    Definitely go see a doctor.

    Leave your room if you can and go be with someone. If there's no one to be with, at least get out and be somewhere with people. The worst thing is staying in your room 24/7 and wallowing in your misery.

    Why did you go into a business program? If it's because you want to run a business or be in a business, you don't need a degree for that stuff. It's okay to stop going to school to go work somewhere for a while if that will help you become happy and realize what you want in life.

    Most 19 year olds don't have much work experience. If you want some, go get some. Even just getting a part time job would get you out of your room, help you meet new people, and prevent you from thinking depressing thoughts all the time.

    Good luck and I hope you can sort yourself out.
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    Id hate to see what you would be like if something bad actually happened to you.

    Seriously though, go easy on the workout intensity while you're depressed. It can make things worse.

    Other than that all i can say is welcome to life. You're 19, its all down hill from here so get used to it and stop letting the little things get you so down. The big things will take care of that for you..lol.

    A lot of people feel or felt (as a teen) the same way you do, myself included. Maybe not exactly the same, but close enough to get what you're going through. Its not the end of the world so try not to dwell on it. Negativity breads negativity, so try to be positive.

    You could always come hang out with me for a while. Then you will see how good you have it..lol.

    Good luck dude.
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    Also it could be that you need some sun and or vitamin D.

    I was feeling down for a couple weeks too and it seemed to get better after i spent some time outside in the sun.
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    just gotta find a way to appreciate life.

    I find myself struggling with depression as well. Maybe I should talk to a doc too, or just get one to ship the happy pills, but idk.. You should def give the talking doc a try though, hold out on the happy pills imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reidak
    i feel like ive wasted my entire life from like the age of 12 to now. little job experience, the few friends that i have fucking suck, no girl. i just feel like puking.
    I feel like I wasted at least 30 min of my life writing responses in this thread.

    How does that make you feel? In different?

    How do you think it makes me feel that you're pining for help but only using the attention to make your pain seem more real.
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    dude you're 19 years old man, you're in your youth. you have so much time to live, learn, love, do, see, etc etc. you have soooooo much more of life to experience. life will get better and when you get older and look back at this time, you will wonder why things were so hard.

    do something. when you feel crappy,just go do something. go for a walk, go for a hike in the woods, workout, small the fresh air, feel yourself being alive. it's amazing the amount of power people have within themselves to help during times like these, you just have to be aware of it.
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    So. Reidak, did you go work out today?
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    i don't know what to do right now. im in tears. im sick with myself and i feel really really depressed. i havent been eating much as of late
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    reshave the boys.

    yank the chain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reidak
    i don't know what to do right now. im in tears. im sick with myself and i feel really really depressed. i havent been eating much as of late
    That was, in point of fact, not the answer to my damn question

    Did you, or did you not, work out today?

    Just as importantly Do you intend to work out tomorrow.
    The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which unskilled individuals suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly rating their ability much higher than average. This bias is attributed to a metacognitive inability of the unskilled to recognize their mistakes
  71. #71
    Quote Originally Posted by chardrian
    reshave the boys.

    yank the chain.

    feel better.
    nothing can, or has, ever really taken my mind off this shit
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  73. #73
    i feel like im living this self fufilling propehecy of failure
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    You keep posting these little depressive one liners, but it seems your not taking everyones advice into account at all, hell you still havnt answered ragnars question. I sympathize with you as my mum has bad depression and from living with her in the past i know how much if fucks you up but medication isnt the answer, its a last resort, and you dont wanna become dependent on the happy pills just yet. Do what these people are telling you, get out of thr house, join societies, do activities, go out to clubs and party it up, whatever, just get out of the house and do something active instead of wallowing in your self pity, its just making things alot worse!
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    Go talk to a doctor or school counselor or somebody to help you to deal with how you're feeling and stop being such a whiny pussy. Life is hard. You need to learn how to deal with it.

    Maybe this thread is a cry for help or something but, seriously, if you don't DO something to change your outlook or situation then you'll have a harder and harder time finding sympathy.

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