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 Originally Posted by zook
wp ltrain
i cant refute what you said. i learn by posting my own opinions and getting them flamed by the more informed. i agree with some of what you said, but a lot of it still rubs me wrong.
with a society that is going left, for whatever reasons, i feel myself fighting to stop it. not that SOME of it isnt needed. but, not the "give and inch take a mile" philosophy i see in government. i see misuse of funds given by taxation on both sides, not just the left. but, i still dont feel sorry for the poor. and, i understand throwing them a bone to "keep the peace," but i feel they receive a good bit more than any other country and they still remain poor and leech the system. they want MORE, they feel ENTITLED to receive. and, they want to punish the rich because "they have it to give." that thought sickens me.
increase minimum wage. what does that do? not much, but raise the costs of all other goods and services. in effect, i believe it keeps the poor just as poor after everything adjusts.
i think the main thing with me is how inefficient our gov't is. a lot of the incoming money falls between cracks and is paid out in interest to fund all the loans. we dont get a lot of bang for the buck. and, the answer is NOT to increase taxes. its to fix the systems. a bit pollyanna to be sure, but i dont like paying taxes...most of us don't. however, i am not saying we should pay 0%. and, i am not saying we dont owe the underprivileged something, too. i just think we give enough and i dont like our gov't always asking for more when the left is in power.
i relate conservatism to freedom MORE than liberalism. i cited that. they both take your freedoms...but, in different areas. and, i cited gambling, too (and as a conservative, that one REALLY pissed me off because it was a blatant kidnapping of my personal freedom). but, by and large the right side believes in personal choice, economically, and to keep gov't's hands off. Swigg or Warpe put that link up to read, and it states it very well. social freedoms come from the left.
but, this is why i, at the deepest levels, like our system and have faith in it. it may not sound like it, but i do. we cant have it our way ALL the time. as soon as people get tired with Dems leaning towards social and domestic matters and overspending, they will vote the GOP back in. it took a long time from the 60's, 70's, and 80's, but it happened in 1994. it may not take that long this time around. but, it will shift. it always does.
LTrain, i would love to hear more of what you have to say. its educational to say the least.
one more quick thought/opinion to be flamed...
i am 35 and still learning as i go. i am not a political guy usually, so i dont pay very close attention like i should. but, i will say a lot of you are young pups. and, thats fine. a lot of youth tends to be all about equality and sharing the wealth. thats because you dont have much (dont take offense personally, its a generalization). wait until you accumulate several hundred thousand, or a couple million, in your 401(k)'s and IRA's. then, go vote in a Democrat that wants to change the tax laws and nail you for all you've saved tax free because that was a vehicle designed to get you OFF OF THE GOV'T's dime (less dependant on social security/medicare)....and instead give it to the slouch who never saved/worked. (i understand there are special exemptions) i dont think you will enjoy explaining to your kids that they dont get as much of what you worked for, or they have to pick a different college, because the gov't thought it was better served for that money to go to that single mom with 5 kids from 4 fathers because she couldnt close her legs.
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