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    1. I just won a nice pot against CO and he's tilting and a pretty big fish. I am not sure if I should just reshove over him or entice calls or what? BB is pretty tight though and is 11/10 with 3.8 3bet%. He insta shoves. All I can hear in my head is "fuck, well I have blockers and he probably slowplays a bit with KK+" which made me reduce his combos of hands that crush me to less than 6. Bad/good/who cares? thinking?
    Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    SB ($83.45)
    BB ($72.80)
    UTG ($37.50)
    MP ($51.45)
    CO ($14.20)
    Hero (Button) ($93.45)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with A, K
    2 folds, CO raises to $14.20 (All-In), Hero calls $14.20, 1 fold, BB raises to $72.80 (All-In)

    2. For some reason I think this river is actually pretty spewy. I tried going for the big bet/look weak shit but I mean it's a fish so wtf. I think the turn obv. helps my hand strength but I think it hurts his range a lot which is why I bet pretty small. Now on river it seems like he either has Thxh or a bad Tx hand which is why I don't like a river shove after reviewing it. Villain is 20/12/0.9 over 102 hands.
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    Hero (UTG) ($50.25)
    MP ($42.30)
    CO ($75.60)
    Button ($51.35)
    SB ($30.95)
    BB ($63.65)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q, Q
    Hero raises to $1.75, 2 folds, Button calls $1.75, SB calls $1.50, 1 fold

    Flop: ($5.75) 7, 10, 4 (3 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $4.25, Button calls $4.25, SB calls $4.25

    Turn: ($18.50) Q (3 players)
    SB checks, Hero bets $10, Button calls $10, 1 fold

    River: ($38.50) 2 (2 players)
    Hero bets $34.25 (All-In), Button calls $34.25

    Total pot: $107 | Rake: $3


    3. Villain is 40/20/0.9 cbets 71% of the time. I really couldn't see what he was trying to represent on the flop as it hits my range a lot more than his. Since he just calls, I put him on JJ/77/AsKs/QQ+. I don't think he has too many Jx hands or else he'd be felting it on the flop imo. I was tempted to bet the A on the turn and fold out the QQ/KK but not sure how bad that is? Once he shows weakness again on the river I auto think he has like QQ/KK and bet because I think they'll fold everytime. Is this bad?
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    SB ($50.25)
    BB ($54.50)
    MP ($85.10)
    Hero (Button) ($50)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with 9, 10
    MP raises to $2, Hero calls $2, 2 folds

    Flop: ($4.75) J, J, 7 (2 players)
    MP bets $2.50, Hero raises to $11, MP calls $8.50

    Turn: ($26.75) A (2 players)
    MP checks, Hero checks

    River: ($26.75) 6 (2 players)
    MP checks, Hero bets $16.75


    4. Villain is 32/21/2.0 and steals 40% of the time over only 46 hands. He cbets 80% of the time. I elected to play it slower because I figure he folds way too much preflop and I can c/r a lot of flops or c/c whatever and maybe he'll get the point to not try to steal so much. Probably bad thinking. Anyways, I wanted to c/r the flop but, again, I thought too little of his cbetting range continued. Anyways, once the turn came, I felt pretty good about c/r because I expect him to bluff sometimes as well as have an Ace semi-often and when he bet small I figured he at least had a peice now. Once he calls my raise I put him on a draw or a weak Ax. The river is like the worst card possible and I was going to overbet shove. But, because of that card, I figure b/c is better? What about c/c? I don't think we can ever b/f can we?
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    BB ($83.95)
    UTG ($72.80)
    MP ($37.50)
    CO ($51.45)
    Button ($49.20)
    Hero (SB) ($60.95)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with K, K
    3 folds, Button raises to $2, Hero calls $1.75, 1 fold

    Flop: ($4.50) 6, 4, K (2 players)
    Hero checks, Button bets $2.50, Hero calls $2.50

    Turn: ($9.50) A (2 players)
    Hero checks, Button bets $3.50, Hero raises to $12, Button calls $8.50

    River: ($33.50) 8 (2 players)
    Hero bets $18.50


    5. Villain is 37/17/5.0 over 56 hands. His flop aggro was infinity as well as his turn. I felt like this was a decent enough board that I could float him once he raises and take it back on turn because he can't really have too much strength. He insta bets on the turn. Bad idea to c/r?
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    BB ($60.35)
    Hero (UTG) ($51.85)
    MP ($10.85)
    CO ($124.90)
    Button ($70.60)
    SB ($127.30)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with 5, 5
    Hero raises to $1.75, 2 folds, Button calls $1.75, 2 folds

    Flop: ($4.25) 3, K, 9 (2 players)
    Hero bets $2.75, Button raises to $5.50, Hero calls $2.75

    Turn: ($15.25) 6 (2 players)
    Hero checks, Button bets $7.50, Hero raises to $22
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    flattin ur 4bets, makin u tilt
    1. fold
    2. b/f 12-15$
    3. ur flop raise is far too big. would you raise this much with AJ/77? he has a much wider calling range than you suggest if he is thinking because you look incredibly weak. just call or raise flop smaller and barrel turn. on river, expecting to fold out anything with this line is rather optimistic unless you think villain is nonthinking.
    4. all in
    5. c/f flop
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    Quote Originally Posted by nutsinho
    1. fold
    2. b/f 12-15$
    3. ur flop raise is far too big. would you raise this much with AJ/77? he has a much wider calling range than you suggest if he is thinking because you look incredibly weak. just call or raise flop smaller and barrel turn. on river, expecting to fold out anything with this line is rather optimistic unless you think villain is nonthinking.
    4. all in
    5. c/f flop
    I agree with some of these, and disagree with some others

    1. I'd 3-bet when it came to me, but as played I would now fold

    2. Bet 13ish on the turn, and ship for under pot on river

    3. I agree your flop raise is too big. I'd raise it to around $7 and based on my read, I'd either bet turn and try repping Jx or shutdown and hope for my straight/flush. Don't bet this river though.

    4. shippp

    5. nuts - why c/f this flop? I feel like this K is a great card for our UTG range, and his button calling range is probably so wide. I'd expect a fold on our cont bet very often. As played, b/f is fine.
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    nuts, i think hand 5 is a b/f
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    1-griffey why would u ever 3bet here, not like its a tournament.. id flat the raise and fold to the nit's shove
    2- 11-12$ on turn, ship river
    3-agree with smaller flop raise and bet turn line, allows for more maneuverability
    4-Id raise turn to 14$ and ship river
    5-I b/f flop, ur line is fps!
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  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by nutsinho
    1. fold


    As for hand 5, it's a tactical decision. Do you think you can out-bluff the bluffer by getting in the critical big money bet? Or is he going to get caught up and re-raise/call you with any Ace, any pair, any draw?

    That's a very difficult, very advanced read.
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    flattin ur 4bets, makin u tilt
    Yeah b/f is standard or w/e but......I like to c/f a reasonable amount vs very aggressive players, such as ones against whom we are feeling the need to continue against a raise on a K93 flop with 55.

    55 should be like the worst hand in our utg range on this board in terms of barreling equity, and betting just once typically doesn't do enough for you to justify it: in terms of very positive FTOP results you probably just fold out 66-88. Vs a lot of thinking opponents who like to bluff/float flops and put pressure on in position, checking will often be less likely to be met with a bluff than a continuation bet. When you check such a dry flop after raising in early position, you are representing that you have a hand that it won't be easy to fold out. It's standard to check here often with 9x, TT-QQ and like KTs, and most opponents will read your hand as such rather than as a weak hand that is checkfolding.
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    1. what others have said, flat and fold
    2. what others have said, more on turn, ship river
    3. what others have said, but main thing is if you raise flop you should bet turn and if you check turn you should check river, esp against a 40/20/0.9
    4. fps pre and on flop, you only 46 hands on this guy. 3b pre and c/r this flop as played.
    5. I b/f vs. a guy I know very little about (56 hands is nothing).
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    yea def opponent specific, just thinkin that at 50nl its probably better to go with the simpler b/f route even though i obv agree with nuts' reasoning
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    flattin ur 4bets, makin u tilt
    As far as hand 2, betting 10 into 18.50 on turn seems like a pretty big mistake, just bump it up to like 12.50 and happily shove any river. On river you can hardly go wrong shoving 34 into 38 but like, do some handreading here, i strongly agree w/ OP that our opponent either has a missed straight draw, Tx, or a flush of some sort (he can have 89h, 56h, 7Xh, TXh). He's not gonna bluff us with a missed straight draw if we bet small. he's not likely to call our shove on this board with Tx. Bet/fold 1/3 pot seems reallly good. I actually think i would recommend a check/fold before a shove.
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  11. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by zook
    3. what others have said, but main thing is if you raise flop you should bet turn and if you check turn you should check river, esp against a 40/20/0.9
    A lot of guys like that will tend to not fold any street where they put in money unless facing a decision for most of their stack. So you might have an absurdly profitable turn bet there.
  12. #12
    Quote Originally Posted by nutsinho
    As far as hand 2, betting 10 into 18.50 on turn seems like a pretty big mistake, just bump it up to like 12.50 and happily shove any river. On river you can hardly go wrong shoving 34 into 38 but like, do some handreading here, i strongly agree w/ OP that our opponent either has a missed straight draw, Tx, or a flush of some sort (he can have 89h, 56h, 7Xh, TXh). He's not gonna bluff us with a missed straight draw if we bet small. he's not likely to call our shove on this board with Tx. Bet/fold 1/3 pot seems reallly good. I actually think i would recommend a check/fold before a shove.
    yea this is pretty awesome too
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    I just typed a comment on hand 2 twice trying to disagree with Nuts, but he's too good.
  14. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by minSim
    I just typed a comment on hand 2 twice trying to disagree with Nuts, but he's too good.
    I tried doing this too, but faileeed. I think nuts is right in general.

    I think with some reads and some history though, this could definitely be a shove. But vs an unknown, b/f is probably the best play.

    The big assumption we're making here is that Tx won't ever call down, and I think we need reads to assume that it will, and default is to assume it won't.

    nice posts nuts

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