100NL,i got lost in two 3 bet/4bet pots

[pokerfan]

hand 1: villain (sb) is a 30/19/5 donk over 60 hands. CO is 12/10/2 with 31% steal. I'm not sure if i should C-bet on this monotone low cards flop after showing preflop 4 bet aggression. It seemed that he could call my 4 bet with any pairs, broadway cards or other ace sooted stuff. Yes, i was prepared to get in with AKs preflop against this donk.
No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG+1 ($114)
MP1 ($95.50)
MP2 ($100)
CO ($116.35)
Button ($99.90)
SB ($101.75)
Hero (BB) ($111.40)
UTG ($101.50)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K, A
4 folds, CO raises $3, 1 fold, SB raises $9, Hero raises $28, 1 fold, SB calls $19

Flop: ($59) 4, 2, 8 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero ?

hand2: villain is 28/18/6 over only 70 hands. I have TPTK in 3 bet pot but his flop small bet followed up by a large bet on the river smells like a very strong hand. Pot odds is absolutely good though.

No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB ($129.65)
BB ($100.80)
UTG ($46.60)
MP ($99.50)
Hero (Button) ($102.95)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A, Q
2 folds, Hero raises $3, 1 fold, BB raises $9, Hero calls $6

Flop: ($18.50) 3, 9, Q (2 players)
BB bets $4, Hero calls $4

Turn: ($26.50) 8 (2 players)
BB bets $8, Hero calls $8

River: ($42.50) 2 (2 players)
BB bets $20, Hero ?

[ATOTHEC101]

Hand 1 I just check and hope to get to showdown somehow.

hand 2 I have no idea wtf he has so I play the same and just call down.

[daven]

hand 1 is gross. Check behind. Fold if turn is a spade, bet $40/re-raise shove if K or A comes

hand 2 call

[badgers]

hand 1 give up.

hand do is kinda lame because he's repping KK+ entirely credibly on all streets. I'm kinda tempted to heriocally fold river but i think you got to call.

[jyms]

On hand two if your folding to a blank river fold the turn. Raising the flop make this hand play easier.

[pokerfan]

On hand two if your folding to a blank river fold the turn. Raising the flop make this hand play easier.

i can see your point of defining his hand strength especially when he bet $4 into $19 pot. The thing is he'd fold a bottom range of all worse hands and only continue with a top range of hands.

[Im_new]

On hand two if your folding to a blank river fold the turn. Raising the flop make this hand play easier.

i can see your point of defining his hand strength especially when he bet $4 into $19 pot. The thing is he'd fold a bottom range of all worse hands and only continue with a top range of hands.

very true, but if you're doing some serious multi-tabling, I think its worth it.

[Da GOAT]

i wud raise the flop here and consider his bet a check