Limping SB wCrap=bad

[gingerwizard]

Had a great example of why limping SB with ATC can be a bad idea this morning.

Anyone half good in hero's position will not felt his TPNK, when SB hits just about his best possible hand, he either wins a small pot, or this happens.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $6.00+$0.50 Tournament, 10/20 Blinds (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG+1 (t1500)
MP1 (t1400)
MP2 (t1470)
MP3 (t1540)
CO (t1470)
Button (t1620)
SB (t1500)
Hero (BB) (t1500)
UTG (t1500)

Hero's M: 50.00

Preflop: Hero is BB with A, 6
6 folds, Button calls t20, SB calls t10, Hero checks

Flop: (t60) A, 9, 3 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, Button checks

Turn: (t60) 6 (3 players)
SB bets t60, Hero raises to t180, 1 fold, SB raises to t1480 (All-In), Hero calls t1300 (All-In)

River: (t3020) 2 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: t3020

Results:
SB had 6, 3 (two pair, sixes and threes).
Hero had A, 6 (two pair, Aces and sixes).
Outcome: Hero won t3020

[Nakamura]

Players limping from the SB really annoy me sometimes, but usually I forget about these wins.

That aside, does your 3-bet not give drawing odds to the villain if he is on the flush draw?

[baudib]

Bet the flop?

[gingerwizard]

No. If he flats I'm not getting all in if the river flush comes in.

And I don't bet the flop because I don't inflate the pot OOP. Button could have limped anything, and this is not a hand I'm even interested in for 60 chips until the turn 2pairs me.

If I bet out here, why don't I limp Acrap and bet top pair? My plan is c/c flop, similar blank turns. Lastly if I lead I turn my hand face up

[taipan168]

Perfect example of reverse implied odds.

Personally I would bet the flop for 40-50 or so. There's a big difference between saying you won't go broke with less than two pair and betting what is most likely the best hand at this point.

[gingerwizard]

If I have a preflop plan I find sticking to it best. I've been in tough spots betting out TP from blinds recently and all the advice I've had points to checking in this spot.

[baudib]

It's close, but I still like taipan's plan, you can certainly be called by worse...personally I probably bet it like 60% of the time. you would usually expect the button to bet this flop vs. blinds tho. I trust myself to play the hand decently after the button bets but it leaves you in awkward position on most turns, so I think representing some kind of hand rather than is better than leaving yourself open to being bluffed.

[gingerwizard]

You mean "definining your hand."

I'd rather c/c, and have opps bet worse hands into me. I also like small pots until turn hits

[drmcboy]

getting coolered = bad

[TLR]

I think SB played the hand badly, but his main leak here was not the limping from SB but pushing over the reraise.

I think BB played the hand too passively, I would probably raise it preflop with what is probably the best hand and easy 60 chips, I would definitly bet the flop for about 2/3 of the pot