Rush Limbaughments

[bigred]

"I hope Obama fails"

Idea: Titanic 2.0 featuring guests such as Rush, Ann Coulter, etc.

[nibbles]

Shock jock in a suit. His words are meaningless.

[will641]

link?

[bigred]

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/dai...113.guest.html

[wufwugy]

his power is dwindling. repubs will move further right and become trivialized, or will move towards center and finally fight off the propagandizing and anti-middle class southern strategy of the last 30s years. im betting on the former, yet the latter would be much better for the country.

[kb coolman]

My parents have been life long republicans. My wife and I are life long republicans. But we are all without a party, as the past 8 years have completely erroded any hope we could place in our elected officials to uphold the values of small government and social conservativism.

Rush Limbaugh is laughable. He's no more than a resounding gong.

I am no longer a Republican, nor am I a Democrat. I did not vote for Obama, but I hope and pray with EVERY FIBER IN MY BEING that his presidency abounds with success.

To hope for your President to fail is to hope for your country to fail.

/Rush Limbaugh

[will641]

hes not saying i hope barack obama fucks up this country and we all go wow cant believe we elected that idiot. hes saying he hopes he fails in passing policy. so fucking what? i think all conservatives hope he fails at making everything a social government program.

[bigred]

I'm more interested in his energy and green issues. America isn't going to be converted to socialism or anything close so no need to worry.

Besides, if Obama "fails" we'll just dub him Bush 2.0 (or would that be 3.0? I'm not sure)

[Squeaky_Midget1]

"I hope Obama fails"

This is taken out of context. He hopes his policies fail.

Im really curious as to what you lefties think about closing Guantanemo and bringing terrorists to the U.S. so they can have "civil rights" and due process. And how you think his socialized medicine plan will be a good thing.

[Deanglow]

"I hope Obama fails"

This is taken out of context. He hopes his policies fail.

Im really curious as to what you lefties think about closing Guantanemo and bringing terrorists to the U.S. so they can have "civil rights" and due process. And how you think his socialized medicine plan will be a good thing.

best fucking first day move ever. lol at quoting "civil rights"

[mcatdog]

My parents have been life long republicans. My wife and I are life long republicans. But we are all without a party, as the past 8 years have completely erroded any hope we could place in our elected officials to uphold the values of small government and social conservativism.

Rush Limbaugh is laughable. He's no more than a resounding gong.

I am no longer a Republican, nor am I a Democrat. I did not vote for Obama, but I hope and pray with EVERY FIBER IN MY BEING that his presidency abounds with success.

To hope for your President to fail is to hope for your country to fail.

/Rush Limbaugh

there is where I stand too, nice post

[drmcboy]

Im really curious as to what you lefties think about closing Guantanemo and bringing terrorists to the U.S. so they can have "civil rights" and due process. And how you think his socialized medicine plan will be a good thing.

Closing gitmo is of course awesome.

Not sure the health care thing will work but it almost has to be an improvement over epic fail.

sad to see he is continuing down the afgan war expansion path

[kb coolman]

Im really curious as to what you lefties think about closing Guantanemo and bringing terrorists to the U.S. so they can have "civil rights" and due process. And how you think his socialized medicine plan will be a good thing.

Well, I'm not a lefty, but I think Guantanamo has to be closed. We are beholden to the Geneva Convention, which obligates us to a moral high ground that may or may not be shared by our enemies. If we are the 'Greater Nation', then it is imperative that all prisoners of war are treated in accordance with due process. "Innocent until proven guilty" must apply, even if we really, really don't like someone.

As far as socialized medicine, it's already here to some extent, and it's a failure. Parkland is a county hospital in Dallas, and therefore cannot refuse service to anyone. They sent a $10M bill to the Mexican gov't a couple of years ago for services rendered to illegal immigrants, and of course never saw a dime. I can assure you the rest of us picked of the tab. I think about it every year when I pay my property taxes to the Dallas County Medical District.

[Squeaky_Midget1]

"I hope Obama fails"

This is taken out of context. He hopes his policies fail.

Im really curious as to what you lefties think about closing Guantanemo and bringing terrorists to the U.S. so they can have "civil rights" and due process. And how you think his socialized medicine plan will be a good thing.

best fucking first day move ever. lol at quoting "civil rights"

This movement towards pre 9/11 thinking is the scariest part about his election.

[Deanglow]

"I hope Obama fails"

This is taken out of context. He hopes his policies fail.

Im really curious as to what you lefties think about closing Guantanemo and bringing terrorists to the U.S. so they can have "civil rights" and due process. And how you think his socialized medicine plan will be a good thing.

best fucking first day move ever. lol at quoting "civil rights"

This movement towards pre 9/11 thinking is the scariest part about his election.

your posts are the scariest thing about this country's intelligence

[Deanglow]

In all seriousness, Guantanamo Bay was a huge fuck up because the majority of people there were not charged or were there on complete bullshit charges. And then there was the whole torture thing. Civilized fucking countries who want to be role models in the world can't have prisons like this.

And the whole "pre-911" thinking argument is ridiculous. What the fuck does it even mean?

[Squeaky_Midget1]

And the whole "pre-911" thinking argument is ridiculous. What the fuck does it even mean?

Taking a legalistic approach like we did in the '90's even though we knew the bases of Al Qaeda were being formed in Afghanistan. And we should all remember and be aware that radical Islam jihadism is such a major threat to our national security and the American way of life. It's not the closing of the camp that bothers me...it's the fact that Obama wants to grant our enemy combatants full legal rights including the right of habeus corpus. The same guys that are killing my cousins, brothers, and friends with road bombs? All I'm saying is :THEY AREN'T AMERICAN CITIZENS! Why should they deserve the same judicial rights as you and me?

[kb coolman]

THEY AREN'T AMERICAN CITIZENS! Why should they deserve the same judicial rights as you and me?

Jingoism at it's worst.

The American Constitution states that ALL are created equal, not just Americans. All men have equal rights until so deprived via due process in a court of law. Period.

[drmcboy]

The same guys that are killing my cousins, brothers, and friends with road bombs?

one brown person =! every other one

[Squeaky_Midget1]

The same guys that are killing my cousins, brothers, and friends with road bombs?

one brown person =! every other one

No, but a few have royally fucked it up for a lot

[a500lbgorilla]

Discussing politics is one of the greatest windows into the stupidity of man.

edit this is directed at everyone. <3

[drmcboy]

is it cool with you if they take the same view, imprisoning your family because Americans have killed one of their "cousins, brothers, and friends"?

[a500lbgorilla]

Cool thought, what happens when the terrorists win? Like full and complete victory, whatever that means to you.

[wufwugy]

Gitmo

1. Gitmo is domestically and internationally illegal, and we prosecuted and hanged Japanese for waterboarding our guys

2. Torture in general, and Gitmo in specific have been documented as not only having zero positive effect on intelligence gathering, but have negative effects due to the deluge of false confessions.

3. Worst of all, the data very strongly suggests that the US POW/torture policy of the war on terror has provoked an uprising in Islamic extremism. One example is of a man who was detained at Gitmo for several years, was released WITHOUT CHARGES AND ANY KNOWN LINKS TO TERRORISM by the the Bush/Cheney operated Gitmo in 07, yet now we know he is a high level Al Qaeda in Yemen.

Being that this man was released as an innocent and then became one of our enemies strongly suggests that we created his hatred.


Health Care

Our health care is so inefficient that we spend way more than any other county, yet we are at the bottom of efficiency when compared to developed nations. Reforming health care insurance to levels compared to a country like say France would be about as good a thing as possible for the people and the deficit.

Do not believe Republican propaganda. It is such a shame that the Repubs have not been outed as the party for the rich that they became a few decades ago. Fortunately, their strategy for winning elections has been weakened to the point that they will eventually reform back to ways they used to be and we should see a return to some of the more beneficial and balanced policies of the 50s-60s (some policies then were still awful though, but not nearly as awful as lately)

[Numbr2intheWorld]

hes not saying i hope barack obama fucks up this country and we all go wow cant believe we elected that idiot. hes saying he hopes he fails in passing policy. so fucking what? i think all conservatives hope he fails at making everything a social government program.

QFT.

Although, Rush clearly is phrasing this in the way he did because he wants publicity. If he really wanted to say just that he wouldn't have actually said the words "i want obama to fail." He's a smart guy and knows it's going to be quoted out of context like that... but now more people will watch so yipee.

[Parasurama]

Closing of gitmo: it's just a question of which we value more: our ideals or our immediate safety. It's not a liberal vs. conservative question at all. Neither left or right has a monopoly on American ideals. In fact, I would argue that conservatives have more of a historical claim to protecting rights than liberals.

Personally, I'm against setting a precedent that could lead to depriving anyone of their rights. Squeakymidget, what does being an American citizen have to do with deserving fundamental rights? What if the terrorists were American citizens, would you be making the same argument to protect them?

Closing the prison at Guantanamo was a great first move, because it appeals to people on both sides of the political spectrum, and represents the beginning of the fulfillment of the President's campaign rhetoric. It's one thing that he could do quickly and completely without help from the legislative end, and it's highly symbolic. He's shown that he's decisive and committed, which is good in the sense that it proves that he can (or will) get things done. Whether these changes will be good or bad for the country is left to be seen.

Rush Limbaugh: I agree with Will, he's not rooting for our country to fall apart but for Obama to fail in changing the country in the way that he wants to. If a president were elected campaigning on the idea of censoring the internet, for example, we would all hope for him to fail because we would equate his failing with the success of our country.

[a500lbgorilla]

why do people listen to him? Even if he's right, the fact that he phrases his statements like this make him a dbag. If we could get a de-douchebagged version of his opinions, I'd discuss their finer points. But right now, fck this insanely rich, successful troll.

[d0zer]

"I hope Obama fails"

This is taken out of context. He hopes his policies fail.

How is that any better? If Obama's policies fail then that's bad for America. Rush and any other conservative that hopes Obama's policies fail just want to be able to say "I told you so", even if it means that the country goes into the shitter. It represents an inability to even acknowledge that a view different from your own may have even a little merit.

Just more partisan, "us vs them" mentality. Rooting for your "team" instead of the well being of the country. Partisan liberals were just as bad in the Bush era, but from either side, it's what's wrong with politics.

[Squeaky_Midget1]

"I hope Obama fails"

This is taken out of context. He hopes his policies fail.

How is that any better? If Obama's policies fail then that's bad for America. Rush and any other conservative that hopes Obama's policies fail just want to be able to say "I told you so", even if it means that the country goes into the shitter. It represents an inability to even acknowledge that a view different from your own may have even a little merit.

Just more partisan, "us vs them" mentality. Rooting for your "team" instead of the well being of the country. Partisan liberals were just as bad in the Bush era, but from either side, it's what's wrong with politics.

Look, what he's talking about is the absorption of as much of the private sector by the US government as possible, from the banking business, to the mortgage industry, the automobile business, to health care. I do not want the government in charge of all of these things. I don't want this to work.

This was the main focus and specifically what he was talking about in his argument. Not that he hopes Obama sends the U.S. into a downward spiral, he just doesn't want to see us make any sort of move towards socialism.

[a500lbgorilla]

What would a Socialist America look like?

[will641]

How is that any better? If Obama's policies fail then that's bad for America. Rush and any other conservative that hopes Obama's policies fail just want to be able to say "I told you so", even if it means that the country goes into the shitter. It represents an inability to even acknowledge that a view different from your own may have even a little merit.

this makes no sense. saying its bad for america is just wrong. you're basically saying that obama's policies are inherently good/right, and that is exactly what you are saying is wrong...having an inablity to acknowledge a view different from your own.

[d0zer]

He's still a frothing at the mouth partisan, regurgitating antiquated McCarthyism.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/dai...113.guest.html


ugh. "I hope liberalism fails because it's bad".

A reasonable conservative response would be "I believe liberalism will fail because I don't believe it to be the best way to govern a country, but I hope it does do some good because I want my country to succeed".

But his show isn't about being reasonable because that doesn't generate a media shitstorm getting everyone to pay attention to him.

*yaawn*

[will641]

as to torture, how can you possibly say that it has had 0 positive effect on intelligence. we got the information from just that to stop another terrorist attack that was under way. i believe they were trying to blow up a bunch of planes across the atlantic or something like that from planes that i think were leaving from UK. also as far as geneva convention goes, it has 0 relevance to this situation, because there is a clause in it that states it applies to soldiers in uniform.

[d0zer]

How is that any better? If Obama's policies fail then that's bad for America. Rush and any other conservative that hopes Obama's policies fail just want to be able to say "I told you so", even if it means that the country goes into the shitter. It represents an inability to even acknowledge that a view different from your own may have even a little merit.

this makes no sense. saying its bad for america is just wrong. you're basically saying that obama's policies are inherently good/right, and that is exactly what you are saying is wrong...having an inablity to acknowledge a view different from your own.

It depends what you mean by "fail" and "succeed". When I say "fail", I mean do more harm than good, not get put into place.

I don't believe Obama's policies are inherently right or wrong, unlike partisans on both sides who already have their minds made up one way or the other.

[Robb]

regurgitating antiquated McCarthyism

I love how we use the term "McCarthyism" as a slur when formerly sealed intelligence records released recently confirm he was pretty much correct. Overzealous, perhaps, but correct.

[d0zer]

[Robb]

ah, let me revise slightly - McCarthy was correct about his original list of 80 espionage agents - records released from both the former USSR and the USA confirm it - whatever else McCarthyism has come to mean was not what I was referencing

[wufwugy]

Rush would actually be a pretty terrible wealthy Republican if he didnt hope that Obama and the nation failed.

You guys seriously need to read about the history of the Republican Party from around the 70s. Wealthy people lose a TON of money and power under liberal policy, and one of the only ways that Repubs will get back in the White House and majorities any time soon is if Obama doesn't succeed