The bluff vortex

[Irisheyes]

Hero hasn't been at the table long so doesn't have an image. Villain is 19/17/5.8 non-thinking TAG. He cbets too much.

$2/$4 No Limit Holdem
4 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
CO ($199.20)
BTN ($476.90)
SB ($1192.20)
Hero (BB) ($412.00)

Pre-flop: ($6, 4 players) Hero is BB
1 fold, BTN raises to $14, 1 fold, Hero calls $10

Flop: ($30, 2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $24, Hero raises to $80, BTN calls $56

Turn: ($190, 2 players)
Hero bets $111, BTN calls $111

Because it's a good scare card

River: ($412, 2 players)
Hero goes all-in $207,

Incase he had clubs or I check and he shoves 56.

[zook]

I hate the call pre but the rest looks fine.

[Alexos]

Pre is meh, but acceptable if you plan on c/r his life to exploit his cbet madness

Disagree about J being a good scare card. It's marginally good i guess. Idk, a lot of small things just dont seem right to me. Like the fact that you have so little ammo on river, and the fact that flush draw missed. I just think you get called a whole lot by any pair.

His aggroness makes it less likely he has draws, this guy would monkey shove those i think.

[minSim]

Pre is meh, but acceptable if you plan on c/r his life to exploit his cbet madness

Disagree about J being a good scare card. It's marginally good i guess. Idk, a lot of small things just dont seem right to me. Like the fact that you have so little ammo on river, and the fact that flush draw missed. I just think you get called a whole lot by any pair.

His aggroness makes it less likely he has draws, this guy would monkey shove those i think.

Yeah, that J isn't hitting you range hard.
What I'm wondering is why you didn't get shoved on by the turn. Could that be weighing villains range more towards 8x, 99/TT and draws, instead of stronger overpairs?

[Alexos]

Pre is meh, but acceptable if you plan on c/r his life to exploit his cbet madness

Disagree about J being a good scare card. It's marginally good i guess. Idk, a lot of small things just dont seem right to me. Like the fact that you have so little ammo on river, and the fact that flush draw missed. I just think you get called a whole lot by any pair.

His aggroness makes it less likely he has draws, this guy would monkey shove those i think.

Yeah, that J isn't hitting you range hard.
What I'm wondering is why you didn't get shoved on by the turn. Could that be weighing villains range more towards 8x, 99/TT and draws, instead of stronger overpairs?

yeah i think so, the problem is I don't think he's folding those because of what I said before.

[Irisheyes]

Idk, a lot of small things just dont seem right to me. Like the fact that you have so little ammo on river,
.

Any ideas about how I can fix this? Assuming I'm c/ring the flop liberally (hence my preflop play) how small can I make it? I don't thi9nk I can reduce the size of the turn bet can I?

[Renton]

calling pre is great as an adjustment to exploit someone who cbets a lot imo

mmm i don't like river. what are you representing other than flopped sets?

also i think c/f turn for kinda the same reasons as river. Logically, you called pre to exploit a cbet, you attempted that, failed, now just give up since the turn didn't improve your equity and since its not a great bluff card at all.

[nutsinho]

so what worse turns are there than the jack?

[Alexos]

Idk, a lot of small things just dont seem right to me. Like the fact that you have so little ammo on river,
.

Any ideas about how I can fix this? Assuming I'm c/ring the flop liberally (hence my preflop play) how small can I make it? I don't thi9nk I can reduce the size of the turn bet can I?

Yeah, stack sizes are kind of awkward. I suppose you could make it 99$ on turn but meh. I'd probably give up, and if river comes a club or an Ace I'd make a big bet and hope he sux and folds.

[Renton]

so what worse turns are there than the jack?

dunno, it just seems like basically a blank to me. i don't think it improves the situation, and my plan on the flop wouldn't be to bet a blank vs this player

[Irisheyes]

so what worse turns are there than the jack?

An 8!

Well I realise that this card doesn't hit my range hardly at all but I was just hoping that he wouldn't be thinking enough to realise this and he would just think that his top pair is now second pair and not like it.

So what cards should I barrel here? Obviously any club/spade/6, I think next best card is a King. Would you bet a king?

[Irisheyes]

I think the stack sizes problem wrt to turn and river bet sizes is a huge problem when it comes to balance for flop c/r'ing ranges. I'm not sure how to solve the problem though.

[minSim]

so what worse turns are there than the jack?

An 8!

Well I realise that this card doesn't hit my range hardly at all but I was just hoping that he wouldn't be thinking enough to realise this and he would just think that his top pair is now second pair and not like it.

So what cards should I barrel here? Obviously any club/spade/6, I think next best card is a King. Would you bet a king?

I would bet club/spade/6 + A/K. I think Q/2/7 are worse but might be good enough.

[IowaSkinsFan]

Try leading the flop everytime you miss the flop if he cbets too much.

c/f turn as played.

[Renton]

Try leading the flop everytime you miss the flop if he cbets too much.

wat

[Irisheyes]

Ya that's what I thought too.

[Renton]

thats the ev equivalent of tripping someone when they are 10 feet away from running off a cliff

[nutsinho]

loool