Select Page
Poker Forum
Over 1,292,000 Posts!
Poker ForumFull Ring NL Hold'em

oh hello there flop 400NL

Results 1 to 26 of 26

Hybrid View

Previous Post Previous Post   Next Post Next Post
  1. #1

    Default oh hello there flop 400NL

    Villain is 12/9 and never seen him get out of line. He doubled up 5 handed when I 3bet the button from the SB and he 4bet from the BB with AA and won vs my QQ.

    PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4.00 BB (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    saw flop

    MP2 ($561.80)
    MP3 ($426)
    CO ($419.10)
    Button ($406.95)
    SB ($578.50)
    BB ($92.35)
    Hero (UTG) ($400)
    UTG+1 ($760)
    MP1 ($400)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with A, A
    Hero bets $16, UTG+1 calls $16, 2 folds, MP3 calls $16, 4 folds

    Flop: ($54) 7, 6, K (3 players)
    Hero bets $36, UTG+1 raises to $102, 1 fold, Hero
  2. #2
    well you are a 60/40 dog at best, likely just drawing to another club but I shove anyway cos fuck you I have aa with the nut flush draw.



    edit: Also this censoring of f.uck sucks ass.
    "This sure beats Super Mario Bros.!" is my ejaculation catch phrase.
  3. #3
    Would he refrain from 3-betting KK to your UTG raise? Doubtful, so we're left with a made flush(QJs really doubtful though) or 77,66 as his most likely made-hand holdings. Other than that he has AK here a lot IMO, and I think we are just crushing his range over all, with re-draws. Get it in, and happily for the most part!
    Hey knucklehead! Bonk!
  4. #4
    I think AK is one of the few hands he can't have. KK is most likely imo. Don't know if he folds 66-77 preflop
  5. #5
    35% chance to win this pot against his sets. I doubt that he raised with AK without any clubs.
  6. #6
    agree he never has ak here.
    "This sure beats Super Mario Bros.!" is my ejaculation catch phrase.
  7. #7
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Posts
    8,697
    Location
    soaking up ethanol, moving on up
    he can't have AK cos hero has Ac and he's not raising without it.
    I like calling
  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by daven
    he can't have AK cos hero has Ac and he's not raising without it.
    I like calling
    Bingo.

    Get it in.
  9. #9
    a shove would be risking 350 for a shot at 800, and you have 11 outs over two streets, making that play BARELY not profitable before taking fold equity into account. i still don't know if this 12/9 "solid" players fold equity is even big enough to make up for this margin though. a call is also barely above the right pot odds, and would put you OOP in a tough spot so that option doesn't thrill me. i think a push is going to be very marginally +EV but is probably your best option
  10. #10
    can we put 76s in his range?
  11. #11
    Quote Originally Posted by surviva316
    a shove would be risking 350 for a shot at 800,
    odds is definitely not this good. A shove would be risking $348 for a shot at $468.
  12. #12
    Its not a 3 bet pot. so i like to call and reevaluate on the turn. A shove is a mistake if we can narrow his range down to sets.
  13. #13
    Quote Originally Posted by pokerfan
    Quote Originally Posted by surviva316
    a shove would be risking 350 for a shot at 800,
    odds is definitely not this good. A shove would be risking $348 for a shot at $468.
    i calculate using percentages--not odds.
  14. #14
    Quote Originally Posted by pokerfan
    Its not a 3 bet pot. so i like to call and reevaluate on the turn. A shove is a mistake if we can narrow his range down to sets.
    I agree. He's calling the shove and I don't really like a coin flip here.
  15. #15
    Ship it.
  16. #16
    why cnat he have AK?
  17. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by wakeup
    why cnat he have AK?
    This

  18. #18
    Renton's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Posts
    8,863
    Location
    a little town called none of your goddamn business
    i think its probably a very close fold

    if he can have a bluff frequency or AK at all then its a shove, but i doubt he can.
  19. #19
    Guest
    villain has set every time
  20. #20
    Quote Originally Posted by iopq
    villain has set every time
    maybe that's what he wants you to think! mwahahahahaha
  21. #21
    i realize i dont even come close to playing this level of poker nor do i even think i am anything but a fish to most FTR regulars, but could someone be a little more specific than fnord and jessyj why AK is not in villians range?

    Birdman
  22. #22
    ok...

    Daven wrote..
    "he can't have AK cos hero has Ac and he's not raising without it.
    I like calling"
  23. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Renton
    i think its probably a very close fold

    if he can have a bluff frequency or AK at all then its a shove, but i doubt he can.
    This,

    been reading down the thread thinking it.

    Opp is never ever ever bluffing and is v unlikely imo to be raising AK if he has it, he is also raising before another is to act.

    It a fold here, very tough at the tables to fold tho.
    Jman: every time the action is to you, it's an opportunity for you to make the perfect play.
  24. #24
    i obviously shoved and he folded so wtf
  25. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by Deanglow
    i obviously shoved and he folded so wtf
    New flash, online nits who don't go busto bluff sometimes!
  26. #26
    lol
    Jman: every time the action is to you, it's an opportunity for you to make the perfect play.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •