QQ on AKx flop

[AFchung]

Villain is 12/5 and 3bets pretty frequently out of the blinds. He's only folded his BB to steal 70% of the time

River was probably a really bad call but I hate when they gay bet like that.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop

UTG+1 ($48.70)
MP1 ($66.25)
MP2 ($66.10)
MP3 ($67.95)
CO ($52.80)
Hero (Button) ($61.15)
SB ($18.45)
BB ($50.90)
UTG ($42.45)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q, Q
6 folds, Hero bets $1.50, 1 fold, BB raises to $4.50, Hero calls $3

Flop: ($9.25) A, 3, K (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($9.25) 2 (2 players)
BB bets $5.50, Hero calls $5.50

River: ($20.25) 10 (2 players)
BB bets $8.50, Hero calls $8.50

Total pot: $37.25 | Rake: $1.80

[Miffed22001]

River is a clear fold.

In a BTN/BB battle id probably 4bet this and be prepared to get it in.

c/f turn
the reason he checked flop is because he has a hand that he wants to show down

so ok, maybe he has A5s, maybe he has KTs
it's definitely a hand that beats yours because if I were him I'd probably bet my 55 and my 9c6c
ok, fine let's say he has something weird
the turn card doesn't fucking help either, because even a hand like JsJd has outs against you

I just don't see him playing a hand that is worse this way
it's not like he expects you to fold to 1/2 psb with anything that has any kind of equity, probably not even one diamond unless it's between 6 and T

while I wouldn't be really surprised if he showed you the nuts, my feeling is that he has a marginal hand that he's betting for thin value
so when you get to the river you should shove all in...

[golfguy37]

When he checks to you, he's pretty much saying he has 10s Js or Qs unless he is trying to slowplay a huge set or something.

Top 30% of hands includes {55+,A2s+,K5s+,Q7s+,J8s+,T8s+,98s,A7o+,K9o+,Q9o+,J 9o+}

That seems like a pretty wide range but we'll go with it. On teh flop, he's checking all Pocket Pairs because he puts you on an ace or a king at least. He's also checking missed flops and maybe AK. Purely based on his range your a ahead of his range 43% of the time so this is a check-fold postflop. You probably should have shoved preflop as your ahead of almost all of his range as a 72% favorite so you wouldn't be faced with this situation.

and lidog 4b/get it in with the read given

[Miffed22001]

and lidog 4b/get it in with the read given

you dont think hes getting it in with JJ/TT pre 100% of the time.

and lidog 4b/get it in with the read given

you dont think hes getting it in with JJ/TT pre 100% of the time.

if he 3bs them he gets it in
that's why I said 4b/get it in

and if he has a really tight 5b range, then he's probably polarizing his 3b range hardcore to {bluffs} and {QQ+,AK} so if he's really active in defending his blinds, he's going to fold to a 4b a lot of the time, and we still have 40% equity vs. his range to call it off anyway so it's EV+ as long as he 3b bluffs

so 4b/get it in is unexploitable with QQ in this spot no matter what his calling range is

[daven]

with the described dynamic I probably 4-bet pre with a funny range that includes QQ. I mean, you're going to be happy to get it in on flops without an A or K as played, right, so you obviously think you're ahead.

As played, dude, the turn was a clear fold.

[Deanglow]

4bet preflop and postflop is very very spewy

[AFchung]

say we 4bet to 11.5 and then he flats (unlikely) and this flop comes out. would we just be folding to any bet?

what about if only one A or K came out?

say we 4bet to 11.5 and then he flats (unlikely) and this flop comes out. would we just be folding to any bet?

what about if only one A or K came out?

AKx we just fold
not sure about Kxx, but I'm leaning to folding Axx

[hangchiong]

say we 4bet to 11.5 and then he flats (unlikely) and this flop comes out. would we just be folding to any bet?

what about if only one A or K came out?

Such a gay/bad 4bet call from villain then.Well,what range of his hands can he possibly 4bet call OOP here that we beat when an Ace or a King comes out?Mind you,people tend to 3bet light,but not 4bet call OOP from a regular TaGG.
We hope for a cheap showdown.