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    Default game quality and trickle down effects 200nl+

    A question.
    Does the game quality at 1-2 and 2-4 significantly deteriorate when there are no higher stakes tables running?
    Seems as though the decent regs are likely to move down, damaging the fish:reg ratio. Or is this a flawed hypothesis? Thoughts? especially from those who play at these stakes.

    Just wondering, as I'm about to start a 1-2 session, and notice that there are only 8 tables running at stakes above 1-2.
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    it was 6am ET when u logged on... that is probably your reason.
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    the games were still pretty weak.
    200nl seems weaker than 100nl so far - bring on primetime!
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    200nl is defffinitely not weaker than 100nl, but gl =]
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoSmeets
    200nl is defffinitely not weaker than 100nl, but gl =]
    not even on Full Tilt?

    from talking to a few people, it seems as though the big step on stars is 100nl ->200nl, and on FT it's 50nl ->100nl. Dunno, see how it all pans out I guess.
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    u r just running well lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Da GOAT
    u r just running well lol
    running SOOOO hot

    Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (9 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    Hero (Button) ($200)
    SB ($74.40)
    BB ($40)
    UTG ($52.65)
    UTG+1 ($330)
    MP1 ($164.15)
    MP2 ($109)
    MP3 ($210.30)
    CO ($192)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with 8, 8
    4 folds, MP3 bets $7, CO calls $7, Hero calls $7, 2 folds

    Flop: ($24) 8, J, Q (3 players)
    MP3 bets $18, CO calls $18, Hero raises to $82, MP3 calls $64, CO raises to $185 (All-In), Hero raises to $193 (All-In), MP3 calls $111

    Turn: ($595) 2 (3 players, 2 all-in)

    River: ($595) 9 (3 players, 2 all-in)

    Total pot: $595 | Rake: $3

    Results below:
    Hero had 8, 8 (three of a kind, eights).
    MP3 had 10, Q (straight, Queen high).
    CO had 10, 9 (straight, Queen high).
    Outcome: MP3 won $304, CO won $288



    Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (7 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    MP2 ($99.80)
    CO ($200)
    Button ($172.85)
    Hero (SB) ($200)
    BB ($74)
    UTG ($202)
    MP1 ($170.05)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with K, K
    3 folds, CO bets $7, 1 fold, Hero raises to $23, 1 fold, CO raises to $45, Hero raises to $200 (All-In), CO calls $155 (All-In)

    Flop: ($402) J, Q, 8 (2 players, 2 all-in)

    Turn: ($402) J (2 players, 2 all-in)

    River: ($402) 4 (2 players, 2 all-in)

    Total pot: $402 | Rake: $3

    Results below:
    Hero had K, K (two pair, Kings and Jacks).
    CO had A, A (two pair, Aces and Jacks).
    Outcome: CO won $399



    Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (9 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    Button ($229.45)
    SB ($200)
    BB ($40)
    UTG ($216.15)
    UTG+1 ($341.35)
    MP1 ($40.55)
    MP2 ($228.95)
    MP3 ($231.30)
    Hero (CO) ($200)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with 4, 4
    1 fold, UTG+1 bets $8, 2 folds, MP3 calls $8, Hero calls $8, 2 folds, BB calls $6

    Flop: ($33) 4, 8, 8 (4 players)
    BB checks, UTG+1 bets $22, MP3 calls $22, Hero raises to $192 (All-In), 2 folds, MP3 calls $170

    Turn: ($439) 6 (2 players, 1 all-in)

    River: ($439) K (2 players, 1 all-in)

    Total pot: $439 | Rake: $3

    Results below:
    MP3 had K, K (full house, Kings over eights).
    Hero had 4, 4 (full house, fours over eights).
    Outcome: MP3 won $436



    Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (8 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    UTG+1 ($40)
    MP1 ($208.25)
    MP2 ($181.85)
    Hero (CO) ($211)
    Button ($244)
    SB ($48.35)
    BB ($281)
    UTG ($40)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with 3, 3
    3 folds, MP2 calls $2, Hero calls $2, 1 fold, SB calls $1, BB checks

    Flop: ($8) 8, J, 3 (4 players)
    SB checks, BB checks, MP2 bets $4, Hero raises to $14, SB raises to $46.35 (All-In), 2 folds, Hero calls $32.35

    Turn: ($104.70) 2 (2 players, 1 all-in)

    River: ($104.70) Q (2 players, 1 all-in)

    Total pot: $104.70 | Rake: $3

    Results below:
    SB had 10, 9 (straight, Queen high).
    Hero had 3, 3 (three of a kind, threes).
    Outcome: SB won $101.70


    Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (7 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    CO ($99.80)
    Button ($200)
    SB ($173.85)
    Hero (BB) ($203)
    UTG ($38)
    MP1 ($202)
    MP2 ($170.05)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with A, J
    UTG bets $6, 5 folds, Hero calls $4

    Flop: ($13) K, J, 8 (2 players)
    Hero bets $10, UTG raises to $24, Hero raises to $64, UTG calls $8 (All-In)

    Turn: ($77) 4 (2 players, 1 all-in)

    River: ($77) 8 (2 players, 1 all-in)

    Total pot: $77 | Rake: $3

    Results below:
    Hero had A, J (two pair, Jacks and eights).
    UTG had 8, A (three of a kind, eights).
    Outcome: UTG won $74


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    but there is a flipside...
    Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (9 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    Button ($41.10)
    Hero (SB) ($208.50)
    BB ($59.50)
    UTG ($221.55)
    UTG+1 ($261.35)
    MP1 ($30)
    MP2 ($78)
    MP3 ($209.15)
    CO ($219.95)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with K, A
    5 folds, CO bets $6, 1 fold, Hero raises to $20, 1 fold, CO calls $14

    Flop: ($42) K, 8, 7 (2 players)
    Hero bets $28, CO calls $28

    Turn: ($98) 9 (2 players)
    Hero bets $98, CO raises to $171.95 (All-In), Hero calls $62.50 (All-In)

    River: ($419) 3 (2 players, 2 all-in)

    Total pot: $419 | Rake: $3

    Results below:
    Hero had K, A (one pair, Kings).
    CO had 7, 5 (one pair, sevens).
    Outcome: Hero won $416
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    oh, yah idunno about FT really, i play on stars
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    lol dude, its not running bad when you get KK in vs AA


    But I have felt your pain as we all have here
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    I've seen 2/4 regs come down to 1/2... but then you realize they're not that great as well, and 2/4 is prolly just as EZ... so...
    srzly. Has anyone ever really struggled from one stake to the next past idk... 2NL?
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    Quote Originally Posted by oskar
    I've seen 2/4 regs come down to 1/2... but then you realize they're not that great as well, and 2/4 is prolly just as EZ... so...
    srzly. Has anyone ever really struggled from one stake to the next past idk... 2NL?
    I hear the jump from 25/50 to 50/100 is a real bitch

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