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    Default mini-flush vs fish 100nl

    villain is 44-11 fish who likes calling and showdowns.
    Relevant history is me betting like a 'tard cos i though i had big blind specialled a straight but somehow the 4c transformed into the 6c and i had a gutshot vs his quads... so he probably views me as pretty out-there dumb.

    another interesting hand that is kinda relevant is him utg limping J8o, min raising sb lead on J85 mono, potting 6 turn when checked to and obviously calling his rivered boat vs 55 (this wasn't me)
    i've also seen him slowplay middle set multiway on Q74rb.

    curious about turn and river sizing.
    I think turn should be a lot bigger or a check.
    My hand is well disguised, river could almost be a shove?

    Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (7 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    CO ($239.45)
    Button ($89)
    Hero (SB) ($113.70)
    BB ($100)
    UTG ($100)
    MP1 ($8.50)
    MP2 ($101.50)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with 10, 8
    2 folds, MP2 bets $3, CO calls $3, 1 fold, Hero calls $2.50, BB calls $2

    Flop: ($12) 5, 6, 2 (4 players)
    Hero bets $8, 2 folds, CO calls $8

    Turn: ($28) 7 (2 players)
    Hero bets $14, CO calls $14

    River: ($56) K (2 players)
  2. #2
    22 on turn, shove river. I might be missing something but this is a 44/11, how are we not playing for stacks when the flush hits on the turn?
  3. #3
    Yeah $21 on turn but even then I would like to c/r this river. He's betting almost everything that calls a shove (slowplaying read is helpful here) and there's loads of air in his range that will bluff.
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  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by badgers
    Yeah $21 on turn but even then I would like to c/r this river. He's betting almost everything that calls a shove (slowplaying read is helpful here) and there's loads of air in his range that will bluff.
    You think he will bet 88-QQ, 78. I think he checks back alot of hands he might convince himself to call a shove with. He might even check back some bad 2 pairs.
  5. #5
    Bet soooo much bigger. There are a tonne of 2 pair/pair + straight drair/ Straights/ Hell probably even gutshots that just arent folding on the turn. I make the river pretty big aswell since he isnt folding a 2pair to a PSB.

    I go for like 3/4 pot on the turn and another 2/3-3/4 on the river.

    edit: Also probably fold preflop. I know hes a fish, but we dont have position here and our hand sucks.
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  6. #6
    Yeah I didn't read the history. Definitely try and get the money in by betting (even if that means overbetting) given that he thinks you're some sort of bluffing lunatic.

    Without that history though I really like a c/r. I don't think you're going to get called by 88-QQ when you bet big and betting smaller obv loses a lot of value against the top of his range. There is just so much air he can have like oesds, missed clubs etc.
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  7. #7
    you're turn sizing is pretty terrible
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    turn sizing is rly rly poor
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    Default Re: mini-flush vs fish 100nl

    Quote Originally Posted by daven
    I think turn should be a lot bigger or a check.
    yep, everyone agrees that the turn sizing sucked balls.
    If i got that right then there wouldn't even need to be a question about river sizing.
    Thanks.
  10. #10
    yeah, fish definitely calls a large turn &river bet here.

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