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50nl bottom set against very strong reg play

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  1. #1

    Default 50nl bottom set against very strong reg play

    About twenty hands into the table, with no significant out of line actions on any side. I'm running very true to my standard ABC 14/11/3 style. (Was on doom run, so converted back to ABC and dropped stakes)

    UTG+1, 14/8/3 is a positionally aware, tight, ABC style reg over 1800 hands this is his second flop check raise.

    MP2, 10/6 over 400 hands. Nitty like he ain't got manners

    CO is a 2 hand unknown.

    PokerStars Pot-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    saw flop

    Hero (MP1) ($50)
    MP2 ($74.45)
    CO ($22.05)
    Button ($11.55)
    SB ($12.75)
    BB ($88.60)
    UTG ($48)
    UTG+1 ($52.25)

    Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 3, 3
    1 fold, UTG+1 bets $1.75, Hero calls $1.75, MP2 calls $1.75, CO calls $1.75, 3 folds

    Flop: ($7.75) 6, 9, 3 (4 players)
    UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $5.50, MP2 calls $5.50, 1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $18, Hero ???
    If you planned to "suck out" you did the first half.
  2. #2
    I typically throw up and punch something before making this FOLD
  3. #3
    I'd fold pre also
  4. #4
    pre is terrible as played don't fold
  5. #5
    long time since i played FR if this is a fold pre
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  6. #6
    pre is awful.you have 2 shorties behind you.

    Well,its just a weird line for a ABC Tagg player to c/r with TT+.nevertheless,im not folding.

    Was his 1st flop c/r multiway as well?
  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by Micro2Macro
    I typically throw up and punch something before making this FOLD
    Quote Originally Posted by Micro2Macro
    I'd fold pre also
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  8. #8
    Well I think it depends on the table, but typically I'm folding this pre. Unless it was a bunch of passive fish. Given the stack sizes your table looks pretty fishy, so perhaps calling is fine. But take into consideration how often a shorty is going to squeeze and make you fold. If the table was full of decent regulars I'd fold too, but maybe that's a bit tight for 50nl. I'd rather wait till I'm in a later position to set hunt to minimize risk of being squeezed and also with a better chance of having position in the hand, it'll be easier to steal postflop in most cases.

    Perhaps anyone who disagrees should filter out pairs 22-55 say from UTG+1 to MP1 or 2 facing an UTG to UTG+1/MP1 raise and see how profitable they are overall. I don't have a large enough DB right now to gain anything from this but it would be interesting to see someone elses results.
  9. #9
    I dont think you can get away from this one. Push. Could still be an overpair that was played as if he knew someone would behind would take a stab at the dry pot.

    I'm old school as well Da Goat and it looks like you have implied odd's to call pre. Make sets/get paid used to be the motto back in my day (05/06) so this is a bread and butter hand.
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