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1/2 - QQ vs. 3 barrels 200bb deep

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    Default 1/2 - QQ vs. 3 barrels 200bb deep

    Villain's a decent reg I've played a fair amount with but I don't have any notes on. He's running 23/17/2.5, 3betting 7% from the bb, turn cbet 46%, river cbet 70%.

    Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (4 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    Hero (Button) ($713.40)
    SB ($266.60)
    BB ($420.25)
    UTG ($316.70)

    Preflop: Hero is Button with Q, Q
    1 fold, Hero bets $6, 1 fold, BB raises to $23, Hero calls $17

    Flop: ($48.20) 10, 5, 4 (2 players)
    BB bets $33, Hero calls $33

    Turn: ($114.20) 6 (2 players)
    BB bets $72, Hero calls $72

    River: ($258.20) 3 (2 players)
    BB bets $291.95 (All-In), Hero...
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    Can you really decipher tendencies from those cbet by street stats?

    I think the turn looks like a very good place to fold. River seems strange, but not enough to merit a call without reads imo.

    Pretty standard calldown vs a whale though.
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    I like a raise somewhere along the way. I would flat preflop as well but i would have raised the flop. I think this deep its probably the cheapest place to raise and define ur hand strength and his. If he ships we can fold, if he folds great, if he calls u got position on that board with an over pair and there are a ton of ways to play it. His 3bet from BB is 7% which can include a lot of air. As played with that river, a lot of his air caught up with as well. I think its a fold.
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    I'd raise the flop and get it in. Your raise is gonna look pretty fos and he can jam a whole bunch of draws and worse pairs. As played I'm a station and I'm not folding. What does he do with JJ here? I highly doubt he's c/f's at any point since he probably expects you to 4 bet anything better. I also wouldn't put it past him to bluff here sometimes.
  5. #5
    I would raise the flop to $78 with the intention of getting it in. As you played it I would never fold the turn but would fold the river. If the river was more of a brick I'd call.
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    You guys notice its deep right? Not that easy to just raise/get it in in these spots.

    I'd play it the same and river is a gross spot. I can't imagine that many 7x in his range...is he the type that would shove KK/AA here?

    Does he 3bet a polarized range when deep?
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    You'd have to give this guy massive credit here if you think he's bluffing ever. I also agree with p4s that this could just be a turn fold.
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    Is there any argument for 4betting pre?

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