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50NL, TPTK on shitty flop 5 way

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  1. #1

    Default 50NL, TPTK on shitty flop 5 way

    villian is unknown(30/12/2.5 over 30 hands) This hand looks like a live 1/2NL game. I dont know how to adjust my bet sizing on this shitty board. Is c/c or even c/f good given that we are OOP and face 4 callers. This flop hits our opponents range pretty hard. I was surprised that My underbet only got one caller. Should i continue to felt BIG on this safe turn and charge his draws ruthlessly?
    No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

    UTG ($50)
    Hero (UTG+1) ($50)
    MP1 ($12.70)
    MP2 ($11.50)
    MP3 ($54.90)
    CO ($11.80)
    Button ($48.20)
    SB ($71)
    BB ($39.80)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A, K
    1 fold, Hero bets $2, 2 folds, MP3 calls $2, 1 fold, Button calls $2, SB calls $1.75, BB calls $1.50

    Flop: ($10) K, Q, J (5 players)
    SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $4, MP3 calls $4, 3 folds

    Turn: ($18) 4 (2 players)
    Hero ?
    Last edited by pokerfan; 03-30-2010 at 09:18 PM.
  2. #2
    I struggle in spots like this versus randoms.

    If he checks back on the turn, I usually bet small/reevaluate on dead rivers.

    If I end up c/c the turn and a draw hits the river, sometimes I may bet/fold for ~85% pot if I think he can lay down two pair.

    If I c/c turn and the river misses, I c/f sometimes and c/c other times... This has to be a leak in my game.

    This advice is probably complete shit, just so you know.
    Last edited by Im_new; 03-30-2010 at 10:04 PM.


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  3. #3
    I'd bet/fold 2/3-3/4 every street unless an A hits


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  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by caddie444 View Post
    I'd bet/fold 2/3-3/4 every street unless an A hits
    can u explain why?


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  5. #5
    Agree with Caddie, I b/f this 3/4 - 7/8 pot each street to protect vs. draws and get value from 1 Pair type hands and those corresponding draws.

    We are ahead on this flop a fair bit and any made 2-pair hands will likely need to raise given the threatening board and a set/straight will also raise before the action dies when an A or T hits the board. Nobody I see at 50NL is bluffin 5-way.
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  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Im_new View Post
    can u explain why?
    Pretty much what Coug said.

    I know this board seems scary but we do have the best hand a lot of the time and we need to protect it from the myriad of straight draws that are available. If we are beat we will at the very latest hear about it on the turn, and any hand that raises us has us crushed.

    I know it sounds strange but we are essentially almost at the bottom of our c-bet range multiway with this hand (I may consider c-betting AQ here depending on some things) which is why we should be bet/folding


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