QQ oop on paired board

[shakesss]

Villain is 22/15/2.3, 5.5 3b. Fold to flop cbet 45%, 568 Hands. He is a reg at 50 and 100NL.

Standard?

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button ($128.22)
SB ($95.59)
BB ($50)
Hero (UTG) ($50.75)
MP ($76.16)
CO ($41.70)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q, Q
Hero bets $1.75, MP calls $1.75, CO calls $1.75, Button calls $1.75, SB calls $1.50, 1 fold

Flop: ($9.25) 7, 7, 2 (5 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $5.50, 2 folds, Button calls $5.50, 1 fold

Turn: ($20.25) J (2 players)
Hero bets $11.25, Button calls $11.25

River: ($42.75) J (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $42.75, Hero folds

[Vi-Zer0Skill]

it seems to me that a flop check is a real option

[minSim]

it seems to me that a flop check is a real option

I don't know. A cbet of course shows strength, but so does a flop c/c or c/r. If someone continues in a 5way pot he has something decent. I think I rather just keep the lead and don't let any FD check through and such and get some value from a midpair that doesn't wanna fold.
My plan isn't to get allin on this board.

[Mr. Diamond]

it seems to me that a flop check is a real option

- can you say why??

I think giving free card to 4 players is bad. I think something like TT calls 2 barrels as same as FD

[XTR1000]

Def bet flop. Its not like people would suddenly fire their air when checked to on a 5way party and theres value to be had from PPs and FD that would otherwise check back.

[Vi-Zer0Skill]

- can you say why??

I think giving free card to 4 players is bad. I think something like TT calls 2 barrels as same as FD

that a worse PP is going to call flop + turn is the part i think is debatable. i certainly wouldn't call two barrels with TT facing a cbet on flop + turn from a fellow TAG reg in this spot.

we're giving up a free card, but at the same time if we take this pot to the river it's really hard for us to c/c a river bet because opps range for calling two barrels is quite strong.

[Mr. Diamond]

but:
- we don't give a free card to only 1 player, but another 3
- I think someone with weak FD will check here - we lose value
- same is for pp like 44-66 - fish probably check behind, but call atleast 1 bet and with 88-JJ probably calls 2 barrels
- when we check every card (expect 7 and Q) can beat us, because we have absolutely no idea what other players have
- we protect our hand against something like AT, KJ, etc. - these hands must fold, but if we check they can catch

[Mr. Diamond]

that a worse PP is going to call flop + turn is the part i think is debatable. i certainly wouldn't call two barrels with TT facing a cbet on flop + turn from a fellow TAG reg in this spot.

- this is true (I'm probably betting only JJ+ here), but we have info only on SB - other players could be bad

[texa8]

i probably bet a lot closer to the pot on the flop against this amount of players, and subsequently more on the turn... not that much left behind on the river.. thoughts?

[sk8r_daniel]

Since checking the flop seems terrible, the only other option seems to be check/call the turn and reevaluate the river. But this also seems pretty bad.

It looks like you played it just fine.

[meeloche]

If this guy is at all aggressive postflop I'm snapping this off. 33-66 has to bluff now to win plus this guy likely only has jx of diamonds and it makes no sense for him to bet 7x that size.

[shakesss]

I put him on a 7 or 22 after he called the turn bet. My hand is pretty face up and he is an ok hand reader. I dont think he ever has a flush draw here either. My initial reaction to his bet was either he is trying to make it look bluffy, or he might think i made a flush and wont fold. I had 32 behind and so i really cant see him betting lesser than that for value into a 42 dollar pot.

If he did have 33 or 66, which would be quite adventurous but not impossible, he would play it the same way though.

[minSim]

If this guy is at all aggressive postflop I'm snapping this off. 33-66 has to bluff now to win plus this guy likely only has jx of diamonds and it makes no sense for him to bet 7x that size.

This is important, although I have a lot of doubt villain would call flop+turn with 33-66.
It all just makes little sense to me. Maybe he's on the level of "hero is bluffcatching anyway, so let's pot it."