What does hero have?

[mxiu]

Hero is running 20/17/2.6, 6%3b
Villain is an unknown running 17/16/4 over 133 hands, no history

What is hero's range here, and what hands do you call here with if you are villain?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (5 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (SB) ($128.45)
BB ($108.15)
UTG ($111.70)
MP ($20)
Button ($110.45)

Preflop: Hero is SB with X,X
UTG bets $3.50, 2 folds, Hero calls $3, BB calls $2.50

Flop: ($10.50) 5, 2, K (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG bets $6.50, Hero calls $6.50, 1 fold

Turn: ($23.50) Q (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks

River: ($23.50) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $13, Hero raises to $36, 1 fold

Total pot: $49.50 | Rake: $2

[IowaSkinsFan]

88,55,22, KQ, missed flush draw. I have to admit I'm a bit biased because I feel like someone would post this because they were bluffing and thought opp made a bad call .

I'd absolutely call with 22, whether or not im calling with any good pair is close since its highly plausible you'd play a missed fd this way.

[Numbr2intheWorld]

What Danny said. I think a missed FD has more weight.

[Numbr2intheWorld]

btw i hope you didn't have 22 or 55 they're most likely bad calls pre

[Renton]

KQ 88 KK.

I don't really see how you could be bluffing, i doubt you can have very many flush draws, so you must be turning a mid pair or AQ hearts into a bluff.

[mxiu]

Yeah, you guys got the intention for the post right for the most part (except he doesn't make the call). I just wanted to make sure my perceived range looks strong to fold out a good part of his range. I've been trying to work on balancing c/r'ing rivers with something but the nuts.

Overall, does it seem like a decent spot? It seems like if he checks back the turn, he has to muck a huge part of his range on the river.

[griffey24]

btw i hope you didn't have 22 or 55 they're most likely bad calls pre

I can see why this would be true if opener was btn, but you think this is bad vs an utg open? I can't imagine set hunting here is bad vs a tight player opening utg.

[Renton]

22/55 are extremely negative ev calls, imo

[JL]

22/55 are extremely negative ev calls, imo

What if we are IP?

[lancelott_]

99-JJ (made hands turned into bluffs), and 88,QK for value. I doubt you`d CR for value AK/KK/AA as leading our for value on the river is probably better.
Our preflop range vs somewhat nitty UTG open is pertty tight as well, gotta be something like (22-66 loose)77-TT(JJ/QQ/KK/AA depending on certain things), AQo, AJs, KQs, possibly KQo/AJo/JTs+,KJs if we feel like we have significant skill edge post or smth.
We probably have 0 flop CRing range right? C/C entire range. turn goes ch-ch so villain can`t have AK+ and if he vbetts thinly the river we can turn some marginal midvalue mid hands into bluffs, call(or lead out our self) something like KJ KQ AK etc..
How do you decide when you wanna lead the river vs CR the river for value?

[shakesss]

Villain calls here with AK+. Heros range looks like 88,QQ and missed draws.

[kmind]

I don't understand how 22/55 are -EV calls (which I can semi-see why) while having more weight of 2 spades here isn't -EV? If the guy is tight, I see it hard to call with implied type hands OOP or am I wrong?

[Renton]

I don't understand how 22/55 are -EV calls (which I can semi-see why) while having more weight of 2 spades here isn't -EV? If the guy is tight, I see it hard to call with implied type hands OOP or am I wrong?

imo at these levels you normally get called here

[kmind]

True.

But if you were hero would you be playing those hands (SC and Asxs)?

[Numbr2intheWorld]

I can see why this would be true if opener was btn, but you think this is bad vs an utg open? I can't imagine set hunting here is bad vs a tight player opening utg.

How is it good? Do you get paid off when hitting a set even half of the time? Sometimes you're just gonna get set over set.

Most people are capable of folding overpairs now. The only way i'd call is if i was really confident i could bluff him someway.

[Renton]

dunno why i quoted kmind. I was referring to the river c/r in the op.

[Juked07]

Don't mean to derail, but when did setmining in position become bad play? Can someone explain why this use to be considered good but no longer is?

(I know hero is OOP here, but I'm responding to some of the comments in the thread).

[Halv]

Implied odds aren't as good as they used to be, basically. In position you can still play pairs for more than just set value though.

[Toadstool]

Hmmmm, I'd discount sets/2 pairs quite a bit here, as when UTG checks that turn behind, his range is weak, and it's highly likely he will check back the river, let alone call a C/R. So, I think hero's range is mainly missed draws and low pp's turned into bluffs.

[Renton]

Implied odds aren't as good as they used to be, basically. In position you can still play pairs for more than just set value though.

Probably you can't call small pairs even ip for a vacuum profit vs anyone decent. Good luck convincing anyone of that though.