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  1. #1

    Default not sure about river decison here

    dont know too much about villain he folds 70% to cbets havent seen too much from him other than that taggish stats and a regular at 6m but dabs into fullring. do you guys prefer a turn barrel? idk if he is folding the mid pairs on this turn. also do you like the river sizing and do you think he ever value ships worse?

    Stacks:
    UTG pharaohus ($228)
    CO Hero ($607.70)
    BTN king10clubs ($418)
    SB suffeli ($545.60)
    BB Radje ($786)

    Pre-Flop: ($6, 5 players) Hero is CO
    pharaohus folds, Hero raises to $12, king10clubs folds, suffeli folds, Radje calls $8

    Flop: ($26, 2 players)
    Radje checks, Hero bets $18, Radje calls $18

    Turn: ($62, 2 players)
    Radje checks, Hero checks

    River: ($62, 2 players)
    Radje bets $48, Hero raises to $172, Radje raises to $644, $405.7 to Hero ($405.7)?
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    nvm hes rarely got non nut flushes here and hes never value shipping a set here.
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    So wait you're folding here? I disagree with your statement about the frequency of the non nut flushes in his range. I call his riv 3 bet.


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    I'd def fold. I wouldn't worry about some unknown tag exploiting you here. Bet turn though.
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    yeah your right i did the math after i calmed down and its pretty much always a call.
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    You've turned almost his whole range into bluffcatchers, and he shoves. I don't mind a fold.
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    i very rarely play on stars but ive seen him do some crazy shit before, im prob not folding here
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    I think it depends on reads and history

    - on the river you can have flushes (but not A high, because this one is probably barreling turn), maybe pocket 88 and bluffs
    - if he thinks you are not folding 67ss, he can easy shove with Q high, because you can't have ace, so only K beats him, etc.


    - without history and because you are blocking K high flush, I don't see much value in shoving here without nuts (and he can have it), so I would probably fold
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    if he thinks your river raising range doesn't contain Axss, then i'd think you should call a shove against this guy particularly as he plays higher stakes than 200nl
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    Dont see how we can fold.

    We probably never have Axss here plus we fold everything to his bet here except with Axss.

    Most of opps range is weighted towards flushes, bluffs with maybe some marginals going for thin value which decide to bluff. We can discount 2pairs and set surely given flop lines, discount Axss since he could 3bet a decent amount of them pre like AJs-AKs for 3 combos, and maybe another 1-2 as 3bet bluffs. Plus he cant have A4s,A9s,A2s,A8s.
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    flattin ur 4bets, makin u tilt
    im sure he doesnt think he can call the riv raise with AsJd...therefore u call allin with the 2nd nuts vs an agg player
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    flattin ur 4bets, makin u tilt
    but your riv sizing is too big
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    id agree river sizing was too big, i wud of raised an amount i feel he cud call or rebluff.
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