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OK I misunderstood, but the way you wrote it was really ambiguous.
Truth is that you do not need to play hands like these (esp. not with shallow stacks) at 5NL to be vastly profitable, and because of the way the game is at 5NL, even with 100bb stacks, it most likely wont' make you significantly more profitable if at all.
Personally, the only times I play SC's is on steals from the CO or button (and even then, not always). I don't call raises with them because there is generally not enough fold equity post flop to make the play (significantly) profitable imo. One exception would be if stacks are super deep, and then I only continue if I hit the flop hard.
Seriously, if you used a HUD and database, you could look back and realize that the overwhelming majority of your winnings at 5NL come from big pairs, big aces and hitting sets. So be a nit, set mine, stack people who can't fold top pair or an overpair (and learn to fold yours when appropriate), cbet appropriately, and don't bluff further than that unless you have very specific reads. Value bet as much as you can on the flop and turn to charge draws that won't pay a river bet when they miss. And don't pay off draws when they hit. You'll clear 5NL in no time and with minimal variance. Remember that variance is a killer: if you are a 10bb / 100 hands winning player, it will take you an average of 1000 hands to recover a lost 100bb stack... Yes you will sometimes fold the best hand, but that is not worse than stacking off with the worse hand now, is it? Variance is bad enough without making high variance plays unnecessarily.
Later, at higher stakes, when people won't pay off your sets anymore and won't chase draws or auto stack off with top pair, you can start adding these plays to your repertoire. Actually you'll probably have to, and you will have to accept higher variance to stay profitable.
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Total air river bluff?
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Originally Posted by try_2_improve
