NL10: nut flush draw relatively deep OOP

[Raoni_Poker]

Hi, guys,

I wonder if I misplayed this hand in a blind vs blind spot. Villain is a good reg (I saw later that he is a small winner) and he was 24/14 over 62 hands. Even though he is fairly aggressive post flop, I have no reason to believe that he is bluffing. So, I'm assuming he has a big hand, we're 160BBs effective and I have a FD. Here is the action:

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (4 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com
UTG ($18.04)
Button ($10)
Hero (SB) ($16.89)
BB ($23.06)
Preflop: Hero is SB with A, 2
2 folds, Hero bets $0.25, BB calls $0.20

Standard steal. I noticed that it is better to steal smaller (3x instead of 4x). It is nearly the same thing and I'm risking less against a 3 bet or a call.

Flop: ($0.60) 10, 4, J (2 players)
Hero bets $0.40, BB raises $1.20, Hero calls $0.80

Pretty good flop. However, in retrospect, I think that leading out here is not very good. My thought process was that I had good fold equity here and I would be glad to take the pot right now. He check raises me and I think he has a big hand here. I call hoping to hit a flush and extract at least a 2/3 bet, if not getting his whole stack (if he can't laydown a set or a smaller flush).


Turn: ($3) 8 (2 players)

Turn brings another draw and I check call getting 30% immediate odds on my call. Against a range of overpairs and sets, I have around 20% equity. However, If I can extract a half pot sized bet when I hit and not bet when I miss (correct me if I'm wrong), it is a slightly +EV call.

Hero checks, BB bets $2.50, Hero calls $2.50
River: ($8) 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $4.40, Hero folds
Total pot: $8


River is standard. He seems to have a good hand and he is probablly betting for value (as a backdoor flush is unlikely for me to have).

What do you think of this hand? Is it better to play check-call flop? Are we ever folding or semi-bluffing the turn?

[daviddem]

I think you can call the flop, but not the turn. Flushes don't have nearly as much implied odds as people like to think, and your A may well not be an out here. Plus if as you say he probably has a big hand like a set, not all your flush outs are clean either.

Leading the flop is fine imo, unless you have a read that he raises cbets light.

[daven]

I think you can call the flop, but not the turn. Flushes don't have nearly as much implied odds as people like to think, and your A may well not be an out here. Plus if as you say he probably has a big hand like a set, not all your flush outs are clean either.

Leading the flop is fine imo, unless you have a read that he raises cbets light.

qft

[kfaess]

I'd raise bigger PF, at least 3x if not 4x. What do you expect him to fold when he's getting great odds and is guaranteed to play a heads up pot in pos?

Leading flop is fine imo.

I'd like continuing on the turn a lot more if you were in position. oop its a lot harder to get value on the river when you do hit.

[DJAbacus]

Newbie perspective.

I am getting worried that he has called PF and I would fold flop after a 1.3x pot raise, especially oop. I have read that overbets like this may suggest a player is nervously bluffing. However, I am too inexperienced to risk this. I don't think I will get value in calling.

In a similar situation (heads up, oop on marginal-good hand) I would bet more aggressively 5xBB PF or just fold.

[Raoni_Poker]

Yes, I agree that folding turn is best here. Calling flop is probably ok because I have more impplied odds when I hit the flush in the turn (they usually peel light the turn). But I agree that my impplied odds are not great in the river and that a 2/3 pot sized bet is not going to be called as often as I would need to.

Concerning steal size bets, I think that they are usually not worried about the amount. They would 3 bet, fold or call with the same range and frequency regardless of the sizing. There is always some donk that calls with 83o because he thinks it is profitable to do so, but I'm always ahead of their range.

I've noticed that the overall 3bet frequency is higher at FTP, especially when you are opening light from the button. That's why it can be better to bet smaller or at least vary your bet sizing PF (nobody is paying attention on that anyways).

[couriermike]

I agree with daviddem. Fold the turn.

[Donachello]

I agree with daviddem. Fold the turn.

this.

[Imthenewfish]

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Flop: ($0.60) 10, 4, J (2 players)
Hero bets $0.40, BB raises $1.20, Hero calls $0.80

He check raises me and I think he has a big hand here. I call hoping to hit a flush and extract at least a 2/3 bet, if not getting his whole stack (if he can't laydown a set or a smaller flush).

how does he check raise IP??