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2/4 River bluff shove or?

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    Default 2/4 River bluff shove or?

    Hi! My opponent is new to me and we trying to start table, so HU right now.
    We play about 50 hands already, i begin 3betting his opens very oftet, he made 1 4bet and i folded. This is all history pretty much.

    $2/$4 No Limit Holdem
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    2 Players

    Stacks:
    SB ($533.90)
    Fedoskin (BB) ($446.50)

    Pre-Flop: ($6, 2 players) Fedoskin is BB 7 3
    SB raises to $10, Fedoskin raises to $35, SB calls $25

    Flop: 6 K 5 ($70, 2 players)
    Fedoskin bets $40, SB calls $40

    Turn: Q ($150, 2 players)
    Fedoskin bets $82, SB calls $82

    River: 2 ($314, 2 players)
    Fedoskin ($289.5)?

    How good/bad this hand was played and do you like shoving river or its time to give up?
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    Fold preflop. Postflop I would either give up on the turn or bet all three.


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    I think you played it well and I'd c/f.
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    you dont always need to be bluffing this river. I think i prefer having a big Spade in my hand or maybe stronger JT type of semibluff, so that i dont always bluff this river wtih any hand i get here
    i think ch-folding is fine
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    I don't get it at all. What exactly is he folding to $82 on the turn?


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    Quote Originally Posted by pocketfours View Post
    I don't get it at all. What exactly is he folding to $82 on the turn?
    some pairs and some floats

    its actually a spot i would double and rarely triple (except on the v best rivers like As)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexos View Post
    some pairs and some floats

    its actually a spot i would double and rarely triple (except on the v best rivers like As)

    +1 except I think ace no spade is a better river
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    I've been thinking that you need to give up with your very worst semibluffing hands on turns like this where you just have way too many gutters. He almost never will fold a pair, so u are basically folding out crappy ace highs and complete floats.

    The fact that you are probably having to check/fold this quite reasonable bluff card may be a testament to my logic.
    Last edited by Renton; 06-29-2011 at 05:06 AM.
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    More interesting question would be how low would you shove for value here? Seems like Qx is a shove.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renton View Post
    More interesting question would be how low would you shove for value here? Seems like Qx is a shove.
    hmm, i shove all Kx for value, but def not Qx
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    Quote Originally Posted by fedoskin View Post
    hmm, i shove all Kx for value, but def not Qx
    this. and i dont mind your line, although if u do it everytime you get owned by a calling station
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    Quote Originally Posted by sauce123 View Post
    this. and i dont mind your line, although if u do it everytime you get owned by a calling station
    Ok, i get main point, thx for ansfering

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