The value of the light 5-bet

[BorisTheSpider]

I'd just sat in, first blind I posted, stats said he steals 55% of buttons, I got a little carried away.

Brutal.


SB ($25)
Hero (BB) ($25)
UTG ($27.61)
MP ($16.89)
CO ($29.66)
Button ($97.21)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q, 2
3 folds, Button bets $0.75, 1 fold, Hero raises to $2.25, Button raises to $5.25, Hero raises to $11, Button raises to $97.21 (All-In), Hero calls $14 (All-In)

Flop: ($50.10) 5, 4, 3 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: ($50.10) J (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($50.10) 6 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $50.10 | Rake: $2

Results:
Button mucked A, Q (high card, Ace).
Hero had Q, 2 (straight, six high).
Outcome: Hero won $48.10

[bikes]

if he's 4b/calling AQ 5bing light is horrible. Also pick a better hand to do it with. Q2o is like a bottom 30% hand.

[BorisTheSpider]

Yes, it's horribly played, he was pretty aggro but I went over the top by figuring he'd 4bet bluff here.

It is funny though.

[Fnord]

You showed him who's boss!

[daven]

Yes, it's horribly played,

this, don't forget it

[Stacks]

Boris uses light 5bet, it is not effective!

Boris acquired Metagame!

Boris loses evies!

[bikes]

Boris uses light 5bet, it is not effective!

Boris acquired Metagame!

Boris loses evies!

wut.

[OngBonga]

I think I've only ever 5bet bluffed pre flop once, against SpoonItNow. He folded. I also beat him at chess once.

Obv the 5bet is fucking awful here, but are we obliged to call the 6bet shove now we've got 40% of our stack in?

[Icanhastreebet]

Why does no one want to question the 3b in the first place?

[Stacks]

Obv the 5bet is fucking awful here, but are we obliged to call the 6bet shove now we've got 40% of our stack in?

If we were doing this with a better hand like A5s, then yeah we would have enough equity to call the shove. But with Q2o, we still aren't getting good enough pot odds against most ranges.

[OngBonga]

Why does no one want to question the 3b in the first place?

Villain is stealing 55%, I don't care what hand I have, my decision depends on if I folded my last BB to his steal. I'm not gonna let him keep on walking over me, I just assumed hero is standing his ground. Obv I want a better hand than Q2, but obv I don't want to be on the BB when BU steals so often. In fact, fuck this, find another table.

*edit - yeah I notice now this is hero's first hand in this session. So I'm folding for sure, I'll stand my ground later when I'm warmed up.

@stacks... call is like $14 to win $33, I'd be looking for around 3:1 before calling any two, it's close but I'd fold to 6bet shove, just wondered if it was correct. Cheers.

[EasyPoker]

Initial 3b was dumb. End